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Mobile gaming: Are you one of us or one of 'them'? [roundtable]
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08/29/12, 02:41 Edited: 08/29/12, 02:42
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Mobile gaming can stuff it.
I think that the gaming press is collectively gaga over phone crap because people can play on their phones, and then they aren't geeks like us. "Ugh, its not a Gameboy, its my iPhone 3G." That gaming stigma will probably never go away. I like (for you guys) that the 3DS is such a hit and Streetpasses and all of that stuff, but it will never be 100% embraced by the public. Cell phones, on the other hand, pretty much are. Even if you're reluctant to own one (like myself), you probably have one out of necessity. I don't have texting on my phone because I don't want to really use it, but I do have it so I don't tie up the work line, or in the event of an emergency driving home.
So yeah, "Stigma > Pocket Space." You can 'game' without being a 'gamer' and its 'fine.' Lame. |
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I've stopped even trying out iOS games, for most of the reasons that VofE mentioned. They are BUILT around making you spend money. A lot of them, such as Tiny Tower, don't even qualify as games as far as I'm concerned. They're skinner boxes with cute graphics, nothing more. They substitute gameplay with achievements and milestones. They substitute skill with upgrade purchases. Even if it's possible to advance in them without paying, I still don't want to have anything to do with them, because they still won't have gameplay. They'll just have grinding.
Not 100% of iOS games are like that, but the majority are. As for the more traditional, less loathsome games on there, they can be alright, but I haven't liked one enough to get over my distaste of obscuring the screen with my fingers. |
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Mr_Mustache said:I think that the gaming press is collectively gaga over phone crap because people can play on their phones, and then they aren't geeks like us. "Ugh, its not a Gameboy, its my iPhone 3G." I think you have something there. Or just stole it from back when I basically said the same thing on one of the podcasts. Handheld gaming was always kind of viewed as "teh kiddie" until Sony came along, and the press definitely backed Sony. For awhile. But PSP never really offered many compelling titles that didn't have better big brothers, and Vita is kind of dead in the water at the moment, so the gaming press abandoned that ship quickly. Where to turn to save handheld gaming from teh kiddies? Cell phones! Sure, it doesn't matter that 95% of what you find on cellphones is more teh kiddie than the type of stuff you find on Nintendo handhelds, because the phone itself is not teh kiddie, and that is what matters apparently. So phones became the new saviors of mature, adult handheld gaming somehow. You know, stuff like Angry Birds, Cut the Rope and Plants Vs. Zombies. Uber mature gaming. |
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I gotta admit I am one of them. I am gonna get hate for this, but, I haven't bought a 3DS yet mainly because I own an iPhone. To me (and I know I'm not alone on this) dedicated handheld gaming has become irrelevant. Much like the Sega Dreamcast in 2000 it has no place in the industry anymore. It has its fans, but it's not as profitable as it was and I'm sure that will only decline in the future. I wouldn't be surprised if after the 3DS/Vita era handheld systems stop existing period.
Of course stuff like Mario 3D Land is of much better quality than anything you find on your phone, and I very much enjoyed the times I got to play a 3DS but is it really worth it? If you want to buy that system for example, it's $200 to get the system + one game. On your phone the games are like 1 dollar. The phone itself is expensive, but you're gonna buy it anyway because well, it's a phone. It's also something that you take with you wherever you go without question. That combined with the fact that handhelds seem to want to become like consoles (the Vita especially) makes them irrelevant technology. Mario 3D Land is so good, it's not something you can fully appreciate in your doctor's waiting room, Angry Birds is. I was never a big handheld guy but now with all the cool smart phone stuff I'd rather just spend my gaming money on console stuff exclusively. At home I play my awesome top-tier HD games, and when I'm not home I play quick stuff like Angry Birds or Fruit Ninja. It's a perfect balance and I dont need anything else
And I don't even own a tablet. |
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I should've worded that differently. I didn't mean the 3DS was on par with the Dreamcast failure-wise, I wasn't even talking about the 3DS particularly, I just think that as mobile gaming continues to grow traditional handhelds will decline. Maybe Nintendo will prevail, but the concept of having a portable gaming system is looking more and more futile (thus my comparison with the Dreamcast). Because devices that do other, more important things than play games have the capacity to run amazing games too, so what's the point?
You can say iOS games are crap all you want, and you might be right, but people buy them and I can understand why. Maybe owning a handheld system is no question to some hardcore gamers, but to someone like me, just barely being able to live on my own (or to someone who enjoys gaming, but doesn't feel like spending that much money on the hobby), what systems not to buy seems obvious. |
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