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What particular Nintendo topic wears you down? [roundtable]
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I think it’s time for me to dramatically reduce the number of gaming podcasts I listen to, because it’s getting to the point where I can’t stand hearing certain topics anymore. I was listening to NWR’s Radio Trivia podcast, in which they play three tunes from a game and then have some banter about it. In the latest episode, they chose Metroid: Other M, and of course, when discussing it they made fun of the dialogue and the baby, the baby, the baby, the baby... Over 12 months after the fact, the same tired jokes and complains won’t stop! And while I respect the podcaster’s right to express himself, it’s not as if he said anything new. And I think that’s my main problem: the discourse from the media or internet commentators for certain games or systems changes, it’s wearisome as heck. So why even say it at that point, when all of your audience is very, very, very familiar with all of the points that you are going to raise, or the rant you are about to launch into? Is it just me who is having a problem with this because of over-exposure to gaming podcasts? I’m particularly proud that in the NW podcast, we haven’t spent a single minute mocking the Wii U name, or ranting about the 3DS’ “frankenstick”. I’d rather hear talk about Dog Football any day of the week. URL to share (right click and copy)
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09/26/11, 20:53 |
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@New FormsI know, the truth hurts, trollololol. I kid. Back on topic? Online and outside of this place? Just about everything. Nintendo's online sucks, friend codes suck, the Wii is dead, the 3DS battery life blows, Adam Malkovich is the worst thing to happen to gaming since horse armor (okay, I'm the only one that says that. but it's TRUE)... I know. So I suppose my answer is the general Nintendo zeitgeist. Everyone knows the limitations of the other systems, but they're generally accepted and the horse's corpse isn't dragged out for public flogging all the fucking time. EDIT - the thing that kills me about this mode is the extent to which its masturbatory nature prevents actual discussion from taking place regarding Nintendo's ACTUAL problems. It's 2011 and it's still a pain in the ass for Nintendo to patch games. That's ridiculous! My copies of Prime 2 and Twilight Princess will forever have save killing bugs, and I can make my copy of Metroid Prime crash on demand in two places I can think of. Nintendo also leaves their online gaming "communities" to die. As soon as stuff is glitched or hacked, you're better off playing with friends. |
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3DS conversation is often difficult for me to get involved in because I can't see in 3D, so I can't even offer any input. I won't lie, it actually makes me hope that 3D doesn't become essential to gameplay (not that I think it will). I do get a little tired of hearing about ideas about 3D impacting gameplay, because as someone who can't see 3D, it is a moot point, and I'd rather Nintendo focus on other things that don't seem so arbitrarily implemented (for instance, platforming sections that are optical illusions in 2D, but make sense in 3D). I like the idea of 3D enhancing games like Star Fox (since it's basically going through a tunnel the entire game), but it's hard for me to make sense of or get involved about 3D being anymore than a superficial enhancement.
Also, I think some people are unnecessarily harsh on Other M because I think at its core, it had some great gameplay mechanics...But I was still disappointed with the game, so I never get too offended when I hear people ragging on it. I still feel a bit of a sting from that game having being elated by that initial trailer, and then being let down by the final result. |
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So many dogs. So many tails. No, I agree. It's also boring to hear about the same damned games on every podcast (and hear the same opinions espoused). That's why I like the 'alternative' ones, like Warning! A Huge Podcast. That iPhone/iPad comparison that ALWAYS COMES UP is super-annoying. Talk of 'gaming narrative' gets weary, as well. And so does the self-important babbling about, like, gaming journalism. I also don't care for the uses of the words 'casual', 'hardcore', or 'epic'. And hearing people summarize iPhone games at length is agonizing. @TriforceBunI have the sneaking suspicion that a lot of Other M haters have never even tried the game for themselves, which is pretty much my biggest pet peeve. If you're going to authoritatively badmouth something, fucking try it out for yourself. Otherwise, what are you adding to the discourse? |
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Not that I want to turn this thread into an Other M thread...but I don't know...When a game has a flaw or seems illogical (breaking a suspense of disbelief if you will), it IS part of the game. You can't just act like it doesn't exist. I mean, Metroid Prime 2 had a horrible multiplayer mode. It's on the disc. You can't really just ignore the fact that it's there when you're reviewing the game, especially if there's a chance it took away from other aspects of the single player game. Regarding Other M, for me personally, the bad cutscenes and (IMO) badly constructed story did take away from the game, and aren't irrelevant at all.
The problem people on message boards is that they take the flaws of Other M and act like their first born was murdered.
Oh, here's one. Smash Bros. Melee vs. Brawl. And this is coming from someone who definitely, 100% prefers the gameplay in Melee (excluding "advanced" techniques like wavedashing and animation cancelling). I can't STAND it when someone mentions Smash Bros, and then a Melee zealot will come in, write a BOOK about how Melee is better than Brawl, even if it is COMPLETELY unrelated to the conversation. It's like, give it a rest. Yeah, I wish Brawl was faster. I wish it wasn't as floaty, and I wish there wasn't any tripping and that you could combo moves more...but you can't. Whatever! The game is still really fun. |
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My wife and I were actually listening to the Other M 'rant' on Radio Trivia yesterday, so I know where you're coming from, Guillaume. Though honestly, I didn't find the host berating the game that much. I've heard much worse.
Keep in mind the format of the Radio Trivia podcast. They're going to cover games old and new, and they can't help that particular games have already been discussed ad nauseum on other podcasts. The Radio Trivia host (and guest host) usually have a lot of flexibility about what aspects of the game they want to discuss, though I do think it should focus a bit more on the music since that is the whole point of the show. But I think it's only fair for them to share their opinions, whether I agree with them or not.
Sorry, going off a bit on a tangent there. But back to the topic at hand: Personally, I have significantly cut down on the amount of gaming podcasts I listen to. (I don't know if this is just a temporary thing or not). I can't list anything specific off the top of my head, but it does wear me down a lot listening to certain complaints or topics over and over again about numerous things, some of which have been mentioned in this thread already. I think that, for my own satisfaction, I reached a point of too much information, to the point where I was not really enjoying gaming as much.
For now all I listen to is Negative World (but of course!) and Radio Trivia, which is not even a weekly thing. Of course, I'm not saying for you to do the same, but it works for me, and I'm happy.
EDIT: (As a podcast host yourself, though, I can completely understand the desire to stay on top of other gaming podcasts, so you know what's being discussed, etc. I do apreciate how you've kept the NW podcast different and more upbeat than anything else I've listened to). |
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roykoopa64 said:EDIT: (As a podcast host yourself, though, I can completely understand the desire to stay on top of other gaming podcasts, so you know what's being discussed, etc. I do apreciate how you've kept the NW podcast different and more upbeat than anything else I've listened to). Thanks! But surprising, considering the number of times I've said I wasn't a big fan of a franchise/game or my whole "what are games good for" existential crisis, haha. But yeah, without being Nintendo cheerleaders, I do try to avoid having too many rants or too negative a voice, because unless you can be funny doing it (and most people can't, they just rehash the same obvious comments everyone on the internet has already made), you are just being whiny and annoying. I could have ranted about Yoshi's Island DS in the next podcast, but went with Kirby's Mass Attack. Because few people are talking about it, and because who wants to hear someone whine about YIDS's bad design, especially years after the fact? |
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