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'Best SSB Character Ever' Bracket - Round 1A: Hammer Bracket - vote thru 9/16
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September 15, 2016, 05:18:51
 
As we near the holiday season it's good to reflect upon the fact that Super Smash Bros. for Wii U and 3DS released about two years ago! Many of our own Negative Worlders are still deep into the Super Smash Bros. scene on either system and some still play regularly on previous versions like Brawl, Melee, and the Nintendo 64 version. So lets take some time to reflect on the fighter scene and vote in a bracket to find out Negative World's favorite and best Super Smash Bros. character ever! Take in everything when considering your choices… the character design… the style of fighter… the move sets… anything that you see fitting.


The bracket will be divided into four segments as per usual. First we have the Hammer Bracket. Then the Dragoon Bracket. Then the Lip's Stick Bracket. Finally, there's the Smash Ball Bracket. I hope you all have fun talking about Super Smash Bros. and debating each character's strengths and weaknesses. Each poll will last roughly two days. This seemed to work just fine last time. With as many rounds as there are, it's important to keep things moving!

A note about selection: If I were to consider every possible character alternate as a specific character, then we would have had way more than the usual 64 for the bracket. So concessions were made. Alph is combined with Olimar. The Koopalings are lumped into Bowser Jr. All three Mii Fighter types are also in their own single entry. So if you feel strongly for any of them, consider that when voting. The three Pokemon found on the original Pokemon Trainer character were split as Charizard is it's own character now and all three really did play differently from most other characters in the series. Everyone had their favorites! In doing all this, we ended up with 63 characters, also not the right amount. So that's why the wonderful Sandbag has entered the fray! It was entered in the list with the rest and then I used a Randomizing List Generator. It was randomized once and then placed on the bracket.


First up is the Hammer Bracket, named after the powerful weapon of the same name. Whenever the hammer comes on screen, most people flock to it so they can have one powerful punch! Of course, watch out for the squeaky version as it might leave you un-protected! In this bracket we have some of the new DLC characters, some of the classics, and a wide array of franchises to boot! Funny enough, the Nintendo/Game Freak character who won the last Negative World Bracket is now in position one. Coincidence? (Yes, actually.) Who will you choose? (Be sure to tell us why in the comments along with your votes!)

Squirtle vs. Cloud
Peach vs. Dark Pit
Pac-Man vs. Bayonetta
Kirby vs. Zelda

Dr. Mario vs. Lucas
Ryu vs. Link
Mewtwo vs. Wario
Rosalina & Luma vs. Luigi

Vote for the character that you think should win the matchup. Please vote on every matchup.
Please cast your votes in the following format, bolding the character that you choose to advance:

Meta Knight vs. Falco
Bayonetta vs. Toon Link

Polls are open until Friday, September 16th, 2016 at 11:59 PM EST. Who will enter this fray!?

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Posted: 09/15/16, 05:18:51  - Edited by 
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Squirtle vs. Cloud
Peach vs. Dark Pit
Pac-Man vs. Bayonetta
Kirby vs. Zelda

Dr. Mario vs. Lucas
Ryu vs. Link
Mewtwo vs. Wario
Rosalina & Luma vs. Luigi


Posted by 
 on: 09/15/16, 05:22:14
I'll kick things off with my own specific votes!

Squirtle vs. Cloud
Peach vs. Dark Pit
Pac-Man vs. Bayonetta
Kirby vs. Zelda

Dr. Mario vs. Lucas
Ryu vs. Link
Mewtwo vs. Wario
Rosalina & Luma vs. Luigi

I gotta pick Cloud over Squirtle because a.) I think Squirtle is pretty overrated, but b.) I think he wasn't that interesting a fighter back in the day. Cloud is someone I admit I haven't even used yet directly, but what I've seen I've loved. Peach and Dark Pit are both non-favs of mine but I find Peach to be more enjoyable still. I hear good and bad things about Bayonetta but regardless Pac-Man is my ultimate favorite in SSB for Wii U and 3DS and I would love to see him go far in this competition. Kirby I feel is a bit more interesting than Zelda, plus those power up mechanics!

Lucas is my favorite of the Ness/Lucas duo and Dr. Mario, while one of my favorite NES games, is not that grand of a character. I haven't played as Ryu, and I suspect I might love him, but I gotta give it to Link who is a classic and well done character. Wario and his farting and motorcycling wins out for me over Mewtwo's floaty purple balls. Lastly, Rosalina is a fan favorite of mine overall in the Nintendo universe and while Luigi is pretty cool in his own right, I gotta give it to her.


Posted by 
 on: 09/15/16, 05:24:06
Thanks Joe for voting so quick! Though voting against my favorite current Smash character… why do you do this to me!!!???


Posted by 
 on: 09/15/16, 05:27:33
Awww yeah! I'm pumped for this tournament.

Squirtle vs. Cloud
Peach vs. Dark Pit
Pac-Man vs. Bayonetta
Kirby vs. Zelda

Dr. Mario vs. Lucas
Ryu vs. Link
Mewtwo vs. Wario
Rosalina & Luma vs. Luigi

-I quite like Squirtle, but my vote goes to Cloud if for nothing else the sheer novelty of having such a PS1 icon in Smash
-Dark Pit gets hate for being a clone, but he's a clone of a character I like and I have fun using him. I'm not great at using Peach, but I do surprisingly well with her when fooling around.
- Another bizzare character, but I think Bayonetta is pretty freaking neat.
- I just can't figure out what to do with Zelda aside from spamming her aerials and down b. And nothing pisses me off more than randos who spam her up. She's my worst character and has the potential to be my most hated to play against.
- I get a kick out of Doctor Mario in Melee, but Lucas is more fun and unique in Smash 4. His back air and up smash are super satisfying
- I've always been a fan of Link. I'm glad for street fighter fans that Ryu is in the game, but I'm not big on using him.
- Wario's aerials are so fast and useful. He's great. I was pretty good with Mewtwo when he was first released as DLC but I've progressively gotten worse with him and he feels like a generally poor character.
- I've been getting into using Luigi lately. I like his goofy animations and floaty jumps. And I've never been big on using Rosalina and Luma. I hear all the time that she's among the best in the game, but I can't make great use of the Luma.


Posted by 
 on: 09/15/16, 05:37:54
Nice poll series!

Squirtle vs. Cloud
Not really that excited about Cloud. I still think Mog would've been a better FF rep; I like FF7 well enough but I thought Cloud kinda sucked in it.

Peach vs. Dark Pit
I don't often vote against Kid Icarus, but Dark Pit should've been a costume change. Peach was my favorite in Melee.

Pac-Man vs. Bayonetta
Pac-Man is one of my favorite types of Smash characters: the quirky, unassuming underdog! He's a ton of fun to play as.

Kirby vs. Zelda
Kirby's B move is always something to look forward to, and it leads to a pretty dynamic character.


Dr. Mario vs. Lucas
A character that should've been a costume change vs. the protagonist of Mother 3? Guess who I'm voting for!

Ryu vs. Link
Ryu is Ryu...but Link is Link.

Mewtwo vs. Wario
Wario is like Pac-Man and WFT for me--underrated and incredibly fun to play as. He's one of my absolute favorites!

Rosalina & Luma vs. Luigi
Sorry Luigi, but Rosalina's got a much more interesting moveset than your somewhat-arbitrary weirdness.


Posted by 
 on: 09/15/16, 05:55:42
Squirtle vs. Cloud
Peach vs. Dark Pit
Pac-Man vs. Bayonetta
Kirby vs. Zelda

Dr. Mario vs. Lucas
Ryu vs. Link
Mewtwo vs. Wario
Rosalina & Luma vs. Luigi

Exact same as Fink... SO FAR.


Posted by 
 on: 09/15/16, 05:58:31
Squirtle vs. Cloud
Peach vs. Dark Pit
Pac-Man vs. Bayonetta
Kirby vs. Zelda

Dr. Mario vs. Lucas
Ryu vs. Link
Mewtwo vs. Wario
Rosalina & Luma vs. Luigi



Squirtle vs. Cloud
Outside of Smash, Squirtle wins no contest. In Smash? Squirtle's basically another Mario, sadly. Cloud doesn't rock my world either, but his terrible-recovery/amazing-everythingelse dynamic is basically Little Mac but more viable.

Peach vs. Dark Pit
I still relish in the uproar over Dark Pit being in the game. Delicious tearssssss!!! But he is a clone of a fine-not-exciting character. Peach's style is unique and does justice to the toadstool princess.

Pac-Man vs. Bayonetta
Pac-Man has it pretty rough in Smash...he's got fun/weird projectiles and not much else going for him. Bayo was brought into Smash with so much love and care, it's amazing.

Kirby vs. Zelda
Zelda's my girl, for real...but Kirby's a bona fide Smash classic for a reason. All those cute little hats! falcow pawch!

Dr. Mario vs. Lucas
I like Doc, really, but Lucas is a much better "clone" and has a more interesting play style besides.

Ryu vs. Link
It still blows my mind that Ryu is in Smash and yet is so Street Fighter-accurate. Incredible implementation of the character. Link is perfectly fine but can't compete.

Mewtwo vs. Wario
I love Mewtwo but he's not terribly exciting as a fighter. Wario's definitely more interesting, and I say this as someone who's been on the receiving end of probably hundreds of those infuriating Wafts.

Rosalina & Luma vs. Luigi
Score one for a character I never expected or wanted in Smash but turned out cool and unique. Nothing wrong with Luigi, but yeah, he doesn't have a chubby little star buddy fighting for him.


Posted by 
 on: 09/15/16, 06:13:25
Samus beats all!


Posted by 
 on: 09/15/16, 07:00:32
Squirtle vs. Cloud
Peach vs. Dark Pit
Pac-Man vs. Bayonetta
Kirby vs. Zelda

Dr. Mario vs. Lucas
Ryu vs. Link
Mewtwo vs. Wario
Rosalina & Luma vs. Luigi


Posted by 
 on: 09/15/16, 07:33:57
Squirtle vs. Cloud
Peach vs. Dark Pit
Pac-Man vs. Bayonetta
Kirby vs. Zelda

Dr. Mario vs. Lucas
Ryu vs. Link
Mewtwo vs. Wario
Rosalina & Luma vs. Luigi

-Squirtle was cool, but Cloud obviously has more put into him.
-Peach is such an interesting and great fighter! Also, I just don't like Pit or Dark Pit.
-Pac-man controls like garbage.
-WHAT IN THE WORLD!!! How can one of my favorites be up against freaking KIRBY already!?!?!?!? Zelda is one of my favorites, but Kirby deserves this one.
-Dr. Mario is the only good version of Mario because FLUDD is stupid and terrible in smash. Sorry, Lucas.
-Link is amazeballs.
-Wario just feels too unruly to me. Mewtwo easily gets it.
-Rosalina & Luma just never clicked with me, but Luigi is a ton of fun!


Posted by 
 on: 09/15/16, 07:50:17
Squirtle vs. Cloud
Though Limit Break is a pretty interesting mechanic, I can't help but be slightly turned off by how OP some of his moves are (IMO, he's pretty much a "Baby's First Swordsman" kinda character). Also, Squirtle was probably my favorite of the Pokemon Trainer's OG lineup

Peach vs. Dark Pit
I appreciate the character's nods to SMB2 (though I would've also liked to have seen some Super Princess Peach incorporated into her moveset). What really seals the vote, though, is that her competition is essentially Pit-two (and what sane person would choose an original character over a clone??)

Pac-Man vs. Bayonetta
This one's pretty tough, but, even though Bayonetta is a surprisingly faithful realization of her M-rated, super stylized Platinum pedigree, Pac-Man is one of the most unique (if not the most unique) characters in Smash--and considering the amount of variety in the ~60 roster series, that's gotta account for something... which it does, because I bolded his name

Kirby vs. Zelda
Though the move may not receive much attention in competitive-level gameplay, Kirby's copy ability alone kinda outshines anything Zelda has to offer. What's great about so much of the Smash roster is how true to form the characters are to their respective games; and when I select Kirby, he operates pretty dang closely to his series (though, considering the source, I s'pose that's to be expected). So despite the incorporation of various LoZ abilities with Zelda, Kirby's just a far more realized character, IMO.

Dr. Mario vs. Lucas
Never really cared for Dr. Mario, and, even though Lucas is also rather clone-ish, I actually prefer his playstyle over Ness'. Yup.

Ryu vs. Link
This one's probably the toughest of the set, but I gotta give it to Sakurai for faithfully incorporating the mechanics of a totally different type of fighting game into Smash. I'll be honest: when I first heard that Ryu was going to have his original Street Fighter inputs, that pretty much killed any desire I had to purchase the character. Little did my uninformed and judgmental (a terrible combo. just, so terrible) mind know that Sakurai wasn't supplanting one style of gameplay over another, but rather it was an ingenious hybrid of the two mechanically different fighting games. And the experiment worked, providing an accessible counter to Ryu's comparatively complex input origins and a modest reward for those adhering to the commands of his original design. Also, I just love the look and sound of the character in action, e.g. the slight pause as he connects with an attack, along with their fuzzy crunch sounds.

Mewtwo vs. Wario
Love his aerial control; his bike is fun; and his waft can be an excellent ace in the butthole to unsuspecting opponents

Rosalina & Luma vs. Luigi
Luigi needs an update--give the guy his vacuum already! Rosalina is just a fundamentally more interesting character, IMO


Posted by 
 on: 09/15/16, 08:27:16
It's hard to come up with a fair criteria to make these calls. I don't play enough of these characters to make in-depth decisions based on how they actually play in-game. So in lieu of reliable battle data I will just spew random thoughts on their looks, character traits, or my personal feelings towards them and their respective series.


Squirtle vs. Cloud- Squirtle may be the best Pokémon, but he's no fighter. That goes to the dude with the cockatoo haircut and the big honking sword, Super Saiyan Trunks Cloud.

Peach vs. Dark Pit- Pit is cool. Dark Pit is cooler. Peach uses her loyal subjects as living shields. What a terrible ruler.

Pac-Man vs. Bayonetta- Eh I don't know. Never saw Bayonetta in action, but I know I didn't like her game. Button mashy awfulness. Pac-Man though...in the right hands (Fink!) Pac-Man is devastating.

Kirby vs. Zelda- She's the literal incarnation of a goddess. He's a pink blob that eats people and steals their moves. Boo.

Dr. Mario vs. Lucas- I just don't trust Dr Mario. Where did he get his doctorate from? What is in those pills he keeps pushing? Does he have his own stash of performance enhancing drugs? Dodgy as heck.

Ryu vs. Link- Like it was ever going to be anyone else . Plus I'm sure Link can use his sword to just bat those Hadoken's back at Ryu's face.

Mewtwo vs. Wario- Phenomenal psychic ability or fearsome flatulence ability? This one is easy.

Rosalina & Luma vs. Luigi- I ...have no real reason for this. I just feel Rosalina would run rings around the hapless Luigi.


Posted by 
 on: 09/15/16, 08:48:03
Squirtle vs. Cloud
I'm still amazed that Cloud made it in this game! He's definitely a "baby's first swordsman" as @thefly mentioned, but that doesn't change the fact that he's super fun to play as.

Peach
vs. Dark Pit
I looooove Peach. She was SO POWERFUL during Melee (Down A Smash anyone?), but even with her newer, balanced moveset she is very fun to play as. Float, float, float! Smack, smack, smack! Mmm-hmm!

Pac-Man vs. Bayonetta
Pac-Man is unique, and has some surprising knock-out power. He is definitely one of my favourites.
I was super-pumped to have Bayo, but I fell out of love with her Smash incarnation when everyone was choosing her for her easy combo KO (before she was fixed a bit). Maybe I'll give her a try down the road, but she will never beat the Pac!

Kirby vs. Zelda
Two characters I don't use! I never got into Zelda, and my Smash-nemesis has mained Kirby since N64. We vowed to never use each other's characters, specifically our original mains (mine was Pikachu). I have to give this to Kirby for being the eternal thorn in my side! I'm gonna git that Kirby.

Dr. Mario vs. Lucas
LUCAS! I nearly teared up when he was announced.

Ryu vs. Link
This one was tough because I use Link a lot more than Ryu, but I just can't vote against the martial artist. He was always one of my "pipe dream" characters, and my dream came true! They did a bang-up job bringing him into the fold! He's a seriously impressive character when it comes to being true to his series.

Mewtwo vs. Wario
I play as Mewtwo more than Wario, but Wario is WAY more fun to play against. One day I will learn how to use that gaseous glutton properly!

Rosalina & Luma
vs. Luigi
Another vote against a character I use! Rosalina and Luma win by being quite unique. Plus the various sacrificial Lumas make adorable sounds.


Posted by 
 on: 09/15/16, 09:42:12
Squirtle vs. Cloud
Never liked the Pokemon characters in Smash that much. Lucario and Greninja are about the only ones I like. However, Cloud should never have been in Smash

Peach vs. Dark Pit
I refuse to vote for a clone as shameless as Dark Pit

Pac-Man vs. Bayonetta
Best troll character in the game by far. My friends are terrified of me playing as him because I have a knack for getting the Final Smash all the time.

Kirby vs. Zelda
My Brawl main and one of my favourite Nintendo characters. I just gotta.


Dr. Mario vs. Lucas
I refuse to vote for a clone as shameless as Dr Mario

Ryu vs. Link
Ryu has such a cool idea behind him, unfortunately I suck at playing him.

Mewtwo vs. Wario
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARIO

Rosalina & Luma vs. Luigi
Rosalina is super unique! How could I not vote for her


Posted by 
 on: 09/15/16, 17:07:55
Squirtle vs. Cloud
Peach vs. Dark Pit
Pac-Man vs. Bayonetta
Kirby vs. Zelda

Dr. Mario vs. Lucas
Ryu vs. Link
Mewtwo vs. Wario
Rosalina & Luma vs. Luigi


Posted by 
 on: 09/15/16, 17:54:21
Squirtle vs. Cloud
This is mostly a toss-up...but since Squirtle didn't make the cut in the most recent SSB, I give Cloud the nod.

Peach vs. Dark Pit
Peach throws turnips (and occasionally Bob-ombs and Mr. Saturns) whereas Dark Pit is basically of a re-skin of Pit.

Pac-Man vs. Bayonetta
I think Pac-Man is my favorite newcomer. While I like Bayonetta a lot, I like Pac-Man more.

Kirby vs. Zelda
This was my hardest decision, because these are my two favorites...but I'm going with Kirby since he was my OG.

Dr. Mario vs. Lucas
The clone wars? Well, at least Lucas plays more differently than Ness...

Ryu vs. Link
I love the idea of Ryu, but Link has been there since the beginning.

Mewtwo vs. Wario
Anyone that can KO someone by farting is all right in my book.

Rosalina & Luma vs. Luigi
Rosalina & Luma are more versatile than Luigi, even if I adore his goofiness.


Posted by 
 on: 09/15/16, 19:52:51
Squirtle vs. Cloud
Peach vs. Dark Pit
Pac-Man vs. Bayonetta
Kirby vs. Zelda

Dr. Mario vs. Lucas
Ryu vs. Link
Mewtwo vs. Wario
Rosalina & Luma vs. Luigi


Posted by 
 on: 09/15/16, 20:43:27
Squirtle vs. Cloud
I love Squirtle, but Cloud is awesome, and I get to use Omnislash in Smash now. Easy choice.

Peach vs. Dark Pit
Another easy pick. I do like Pitoo, but the Princess needs some time to shine.

Pac-Man vs. Bayonetta
I'm just a bigger fan of Namco's mascot than I am of the dancing, shooting witch.

Kirby vs. Zelda
Kirby sucks.

Dr. Mario vs. Lucas
Not a big fan of the Earthbound gang.

Ryu vs. Link
Tough choice, and I had to think about it for a bit...then I came to a realiSHORYUKEN!

Mewtwo vs. Wario
Mewtwo is my main, easy choice.

Rosalina & Luma vs. Luigi
He's-a Luigi. Numbah-one!


Posted by 
 on: 09/15/16, 23:35:29
Squirtle vs. Cloud
Peach vs. Dark Pit
Pac-Man vs. Bayonetta
Kirby vs. Zelda

Dr. Mario vs. Lucas
Ryu vs. Link
Mewtwo vs. Wario
Rosalina & Luma vs. Luigi


Posted by 
 on: 09/16/16, 01:05:47
Squirtle vs. Cloud
Peach vs. Dark Pit
Pac-Man vs. Bayonetta
Kirby vs. Zelda

Dr. Mario vs. Lucas
Ryu vs. Link
Mewtwo vs. Wario
Rosalina & Luma vs. Luigi


Posted by 
 on: 09/16/16, 01:16:33
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