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Negative World March Madness: Selection Saturday
March 08, 2014, 20:13:23
Hello all! After Survivor Polls have taken the forum by storm, I thought I would switch things up and do something new. Since it's March, why not use a little format everyone knows and see if we can't find a new way to crown a champion of Nintendo games! Yes, it will be Ocarina of Time, but at least there might be some suspense!

Here's how it works: I've divided Nintendo games into eight groups: NES, SNES, N64, Gamecube, Wii, Gameboy/GBA, DS, and 3DS/Wii U. I then seeded each category using Negative World's own ratings. I only included games with at least 25 votes to make sure the most popular are represented (although I included Link Between Worlds as an act of executive discretion). If a game was on multiple systems, I included only the first version unless it was a true remake like Metroid: Zero Mission. The resulting groups are as follows:


1. Super Mario Bros. 3
2. Super Mario Bros.
3. Mega Man 2
4. The Legend of Zelda
5. Tetris
6. Contra
7. Super Mario Bros. 2
8. Mega Man 3


1. Super Metroid
2. Chrono Trigger
3. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
4. Final Fantasy 6
5. Super Mario World
6. Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island
7. Earthbound
8. Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest


1. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
2. Super Mario 64
3. The Legend of Zelda Majora's Mask
4. Goldeneye
5. Perfect Dark
6. Star Fox 64
7. Banjo Kazooie
8. Paper Mario


1. Metroid Prime
2. Super Smash Bros. Melee
3. Resident Evil 4
4. The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker
5. The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
6. F-Zero GX
7. Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door
8. Metroid Prime 2: Echoes


1. Super Mario Galaxy 2
2. Super Mario Galaxy
3. Xenoblade Chronicles
4. Metroid Prime 3: Corruption
5. Donkey Kong Country Returns
6. The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword
7. Monster Hunter Tri
8. Super Smash Bros. Brawl


1. The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening
2. Pokemon Red/Blue
3. Donkey Kong '94
4. Wario Ware: Mega Microgame$!
5. The Legend of Zelda: The Minish Cap
6. Metroid: Zero Mission
7. Castlevania: Aria of Sorrow
8. Metroid Fusion


1. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
2. Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow
3. Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story
4. Professor Layton and the Curious Village
5. The Legend of Zelda: Spirit Tracks
6. Mario Kart DS
7. The World Ends With You
8. The Legend of Zelda: The Phantom Hourglass

3DS/Wii U

1. Super Mario 3D World
2. The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds
3. Super Mario 3D Land
4. Kid Icarus Uprising
5. Mario Kart 7
6. New Super Mario Bros. U
7. Pushmo
8. Nintendo Land

With seeding done, I created four regions and randomly assigned two games from each seed to the regions, so that a random one seed was playing a random eight seed, a random two seed was playing a random seven seed, etc. I used some discretion to rerandomize if I felt that a system or franchise was overly represented in a region, but there is no rhyme or reason to how they are arranged otherwise.

Starting next week we will begin voting region by region for games to advance until we arrive at victory. For now, let's just discuss the seeding, see who got screwed by random chance, what we think might be good upset possibilities, etc. If you don't like anything about how I set it up... too bad!

Special thanks to The Big G for these awesome graphics!

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Posted: 03/08/14, 20:13:23  - Edited by 
 on: 03/09/14, 04:33:45    
Why not sign up for a (free) account and create your own content?
If anyone better than me at Photoshop (i.e. anyone) wants to take a stab at making a prettier version of the brackets that either they or I can update as we go along, that would be cool.

Also, let me know if anyone notices anything wrong (like the same game appearing twice or something), so I can fix it before we start voting. I'm thinking that we will vote by region with post votes only and no polls, but I'd be willing to hear other suggestions.

Posted by 
 on: 03/08/14, 20:15:30  - Edited by 
 on: 03/08/14, 20:22:01
I see Super Mario Bros. is listed twice, against Monster Hunter Tri and The World Ends With You. Otherwise, I haven't noticed anything else wrong quickly glancing through it.

Posted by 
 on: 03/08/14, 20:31:54
Aha thanks. I put that in twice instead of Dawn of Sorrow. I'll put Dawn of Sorrow against Monster Hunter rather than having a DS/DS battle.


Posted by 
 on: 03/08/14, 20:42:17  - Edited by 
 on: 03/08/14, 20:46:47
Jargon said:
If anyone better than me at Photoshop (i.e. anyone) wants to take a stab at making a prettier version of the brackets that either they or I can update as we go along, that would be cool.
How's this look?

Posted by 
 on: 03/08/14, 23:39:36  - Edited by 
 on: 03/09/14, 03:08:02
Oh, thank God. I thought this was going to be a terrible basketball thing.



I think that looks pretty good.

Posted by 
 on: 03/09/14, 00:02:07

Sweet! Thanks man, once I get home I'll replace my crappy one. If you wanna do all of them, all the better!

Posted by 
 on: 03/09/14, 00:37:47

Sure, I'll add them to my above post.

Posted by 
 on: 03/09/14, 01:13:13
Are we voting for the games that we LIKE more or that are BETTER?

EDIT- I'd also like to call "Poop Sandwich" on Final Fantasy III being listed in the SNES section and designated as "VI." Booooooooo.

Posted by 
 on: 03/09/14, 01:15:40  - Edited by 
 on: 03/09/14, 01:16:48
Yeah! Ocarina of Time wins again!

Too early?

Posted by 
 on: 03/09/14, 02:35:05

It is VI.

Why perpetuate an outdated naming convention?


It's never the wrong time to declare Ocarina the best.

Posted by 
 on: 03/09/14, 02:37:34  - Edited by 
 on: 03/09/14, 02:38:07

Check the box:

Might as well just call it Biohazard 4, too.

Posted by 
 on: 03/09/14, 02:40:23  - Edited by 
 on: 03/09/14, 02:41:56

A box from 20 years ago? You aren't exactly refuting the 'outdated naming convention' argument.

Wiki said:
The game was known as Final Fantasy III when it was first released in North America, as the original Final Fantasy III had not been released outside of Japan at the time. However, most later localizations used the original title.

As for 'Biohazard 4', did they rename the game in the from Resident Evil back to Biohazard in the West whilst I wasn't looking? I'm fairly certain they didn't.

Posted by 
 on: 03/09/14, 02:44:59  - Edited by 
 on: 03/09/14, 02:45:42

..ALL the games are from 20 years ago. Its in the SNES section, ugh.

"MOST" localizations; not the SNES version, the one which we're using here.
If it was "PlayStation March Madness," I'd understand. It isn't.

Posted by 
 on: 03/09/14, 02:47:50

Well if you want to live in the past, that's your business.

In the meantime I think this is a spectacularly stupid thing for you to be mad about. Par for the course though I guess.

Posted by 
 on: 03/09/14, 03:05:49
I love this idea.


Great job on the bracket. Seeing the logos lined up side by side makes the whole thing so much more stimulating and interesting to look at.

Posted by 
 on: 03/09/14, 03:06:54
Yeah, I didn't mean to sound cynical. It'll be fun to see the match ups along the way.

A couple of notes:

Screwed by random chance: Earthbound (vs. Galaxy), F-Zero GX (vs. LttP).

Interesting match ups: DKCR vs MP3 (Wii heavy hitters), Uprising vs Minish Cap (Handheld matchup. Can Uprising lay a glove on any Zelda game?)

Favorite? Chrono Trigger vs. Pushmo. Just seems like a funny matchup to me.

Posted by 
 on: 03/09/14, 03:17:39

Minish Cap is good, but even coming from a mega-Zelda fan, I would unequivocally declare Uprising to be the superior game.

Posted by 
 on: 03/09/14, 03:19:28

Me too. But Uprising is a controversial game. I'm curious to see if the folks who love it will outweigh the ones who don't - particularly with the usual Zelda bump mixed in.

Posted by 
 on: 03/09/14, 03:23:05
This should be interesting.

Posted by 
 on: 03/09/14, 03:24:39
Yay, it just started and we're already arguing about Final Fantasy naming!

Looking forward to DKCR vs. MP3. Retro vs Retro!

I like this idea, because it gives some of my favorite SNES games another chance in the NW ring to prove themsel…

kriswright said:
Earthbound (vs. Galaxy)

Well, frick.

Posted by 
 on: 03/09/14, 03:32:28
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