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Nintendo E3 2013 Wii U + 3DS: First Super Smash Brothers trailer + images
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June 11, 2013, 18:22

I have to warn you right now, we're spoiling two new playable fighters, so if you want to come into the new Smash Brothers totally clean well... good luck with that! It appears that the Wii U version is going with a style closer to previous Smash Brothers games (but in glorious HD), while the 3DS version is shooting for a more cell-shaded style?

New to the roster are "Villager" from Animal Crossing and Mega Man from, well, Mega Man!!! Oh man. I can already tell you that the second one is going to be one of my main fighters.

Both Smash Brothers games are due in 2014.

Check out the trailer below and stay tuned for more details!

Source: Nintendo Direct / Nintendo's Youtube channel

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06/11/13, 18:22   Edited:  06/11/13, 21:08
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Honestly, I wouldn't mind not having any other 3rd-party characters at this point--Mega Man (and Sonic?) would be enough. But if I could have some, they'd probably be Simon Belmont and Mog (or Black Mage).

Posted by 
 on: 06/15/13, 20:11
Mega Man and Sonic are all I need. And keeping Snake would be nice since he was a very unique character and it would be a shame to see him get axed.

The only conceivable reason I could see characters getting axed from the 3DS version is because they're too small or have small elements that would be difficult to see. Mostly Olimar and his Pikmin come to mind. But even that seems like a stretch. I really don't know what these 3DS limitations could be.

Posted by 
 on: 06/15/13, 20:22
Yeah, Snake is a fun character... I hope he's back. And if they get Snake, Belmont shouldn't be such a tough thing to negotiate for either.

Mega Man, Snake, Sonic, Belmont, and either Hayabusa or a Square character. Perfeeeect.

Posted by 
 on: 06/15/13, 21:26
I don't particularly like third-party characters as I like the game focusing on Nintendo, but if they must exist, Mega Man is definitely a much more appropriate choice than Snake and Sonic since he actually has quite a bit of history with Nintendo. The only other third-party character who I would accept is Bomberman, as his games have also been mostly Nintendo.

Posted by 
 on: 06/15/13, 22:05
@Mop it up
Yes, there you said something! I'd be totally OK with Bomberman.

EDIT: I wouldn't actively wish for him to be in the game, but if he was announced I wouldn't complain.

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 on: 06/15/13, 22:11   Edited:  06/15/13, 22:31
@Mop it up Bomberman's games are all over the place nowadays. I'd say Castlevania is more consistently "Nintendo", although the big HD versions now aren't.

Posted by 
 on: 06/15/13, 22:37
That is probably true, but Bomberman -- the character -- has been in more Nintendo system games than any one single Castlevania character. I think?

EDIT: And Mega Man's been around town once or twice too. The classic series not so much, but counting X and all the newer stuff.

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 on: 06/15/13, 22:41   Edited:  06/15/13, 22:44
@Zero Bomberman hasn't really had games recently, which is unfortunately a problem. But looking over some lists, there are more games for Nintendo systems than Castlevania.

And yeah, don't all the Castlevania games star mostly different characters? I know there have been a lot of Nintendo entries but there isn't a consistent character for them to choose. Plus, I don't feel like a Castlevania character would fit in with the cast of Smash Brothers, just like Snake felt totally out of place in SSBBrawl.

Posted by 
 on: 06/15/13, 22:48
@Mop it up
Konami killed off a number of projects when they swallowed up Hudson. Bomberman might be dead for all we know.

Posted by 
 on: 06/15/13, 22:51
@r_hjort Yeah, I recall all that happening. It's a real shame, Bomberman was a fun series.

Posted by 
 on: 06/15/13, 22:52
@Mop it up

I don't see how Simon Belmont fits in less than, say, Marth. And in his time he was basically as synonymous with Nintendo as any Nintendo character. In fact, when I first got Smash Bros. for N64 I just assumed he was in it. I hope he makes it in.

Posted by 
 on: 06/15/13, 23:06
I think that's the thing, though. Simon was synonymous with Nintendo back in the day, but is almost forgotten today. Marth is an actual first party character, on the other hand.

Posted by 
 on: 06/15/13, 23:15

Posted by 
 on: 06/15/13, 23:24

There's two different points there:

1.) In terms of the type of character, non-cartoony, weapon user, etc., (nothing to do with the connection to Nintendo), Simon fits in as well as Marth. I agree Snake felt a little out of place with his modern weaponry, but I don't think Simon is the same.

2.) In terms of connection to Nintendo, Simon was as connected in his time as a Nintendo character. Considering a huge part of the game is nostalgic value, reminding people of what it was like to be an NES gamer, I think that makes him a natural fit. Again, Snake is out of place because even though he was in an NES game, he wasn't iconic like Simon.

Posted by 
 on: 06/15/13, 23:27
Simon would fit in really well, I think. Revamp his 80's design instead of that super-ugly Judgment one, and you've got a nice character. His B-moves would really easily fit all the sub-items in Castlevania:

Up-B: Axe
Neutral-B: Dagger
Side-B: Cross
Down-B: Holy Water

Throw in some whip-based Smash attacks and grabs and you've got a star. Plus, he's basically the star of Castlevania in terms of the NES/SNES days.


About time Metroid got another rep!

Posted by 
 on: 06/15/13, 23:33
@Jargon Fire Emblem isn't gritty, realistic, bloody, etc. like Castlevania games. Just my perception on things, of course.

Posted by 
 on: 06/15/13, 23:34
Well, while I agree with your first point, that is obviously very subjective.
Snake has been in four different games on Nintendo systems as far as I know, though, with two of them being on the NES, the same as Simon. Simon, however, has only been in three games on Nintendo platforms, I think. But what makes one character more iconic than another I can't say.

For the record I would probably prefer Simon over Snake too, though.

EDIT: I be wrong. Simon has been in four games on Nintendo systems as well, counting that fighting game for the Wii.

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 on: 06/15/13, 23:39   Edited:  06/15/13, 23:43
@Mop it up Are you counting handhelds? Because there have been 7 Castlevania games between GBA / DS / 3DS so far. Add in all of those NES / SNES games, the 64 games, etc. and it's a series that has a pretty big connection to Nintendo.

Castlevania games do often have different characters, but Simon Belmont is often considered the sort of face of Castlevania. Like Roy / Marth for Fire Emblem.

@r_hjort Which 4 Metal Gear games are you referring to? Because if you are counting MGS 3, that is technically a different person... Naked Snake, not Solid Snake. They just look and sound the same because they are clones and Kojima felt like keeping "Snake" the way people knew and loved him would sell better, maybe.

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 on: 06/16/13, 00:10   Edited:  06/16/13, 00:12
@Zero I was talking about recently, should have been more clear on that. Castlevania hasn't really appeared on Nintendo consoles since the N64, except for that one crappy Wii game spin-off.

I do agree that Simon would be a better choice than most other third-party characters, such as things like Cloud and Sora that I see mentioned. Final Fantasy left Nintendo long ago, if they include an FF character then it should be one from the Crystal Chronicles series as that's exclusive to Nintendo.

Posted by 
 on: 06/16/13, 00:24

He was a Captain N guy though, too!


Posted by 
 on: 06/16/13, 00:48   Edited:  06/16/13, 00:50
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