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How SEGA won the 16-bit wars [top ten]
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04/01/13, 22:52 Edited: 04/02/13, 03:25
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 One word; the beginning of all that is holy.
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roykoopa64 said:This is just a short list, but I'm sure you can add many more.  Sega did NOT win the 16 Bit war. NINTENDO won the 16 Bit War. roykoopa64 said:@WrathOfSamus777
Too obvious of course. Let some of the other reasons have their turn in the sun. 
@nacthenud
@Shadowlink
Sooo true. False Shadowlink said:@nacthenud
It can if you count in a higher base.
In fact unlike other consoles, the Genesis is perfectly capable of calculations in a myriad of higher number base systems. Why? Because of the greatest Genesis game of all time:
The Bases. Genesis has all of them. That’s wrong. The Genesis isn’t capable of calculations in a myriad of higher number base systems. And no, that genesis game isn tthr greatest. The Snes is factually capable of calculations in a myriad nimble of higher number base systems. Genesis does not have all of them. Nintendo has all of them. Fact. nacthenud said:@WrathOfSamus777
Or the EA sports games. The truth is that no top ten list can contain all the many reasons Genesis won. Uh no. Those top ten lists are biased and wrong. Genesis didn’t win. That’s a fact. Super Nintendo won, that’s a fact. There are many reasons the Super Nintendo won that no top then or top 20 list can contain all of them. @WrathOfSamus777 blast Processing isn’t real, it sucks. @GameDadGrant It wasn’t. It sucked. nacthenud said:Great list! Couldn't agree more. Dont listen to this idiot. The Snes factually won. Do NOT agree with this list. @ludist210 Sega Genesis isn’t the future of gaming. The Snes won and it’s the real future of gaming. Fact. Captain Fawfull said:NoName said:[quote]I couldn't agree more with respect to #5. I mean, just listening to the killer soundtracks from Vectorman, Kid Chameleon, Ecco, and countless others, makes games like Super Metroid and A Link to the Past sound so dated, tinny and downright trite. I'm so glad Sega has been called out for truly having the ultimate win over the SNES's awful sound performance. Dude you’re an idiot. Those soundtracks on Sega sucks. Super Metroid and Link to the past aren’t dated, tinny and trite. Those soundtracks blow ANYTHING that the genesis has in the bag in music and sound. The Snes does NOT have awful sound performance. The Sega Genesis has the awful sound performance.[ |
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roykoopa64 said:This is just a short list, but I'm sure you can add many more. Dude I’m gonna crush all of this. Also no. Most gamers look fondly back from 1989 to the mid 90s as a golden age for Nintendo. The SNES hardware and software sales crushed and TROUNCED sega’s Genesis. The Snes name is original. Those reasons you put up are nothing but biased hogwash that can be told to anyone and they would still be Levite it because they are Sega sheep. And no. Nintendo has the clear and decisive victory. THAT is multifaceted. You segaliberals world readers are idiots. Nintendo had the clever tactics and genius inventions that they utilize to insure the Snes would cement its place as one of the greatest if not THE greatest console of all time. Nintendotive world readers UNITE!! How NINTENDO factually won the 16-Bit Wars and SEGA did not. (Aka How SEGA factually LOST the 16-Bit Wars.) 10. Cool name doesn’t justify not explains why the genesis won. In fact it’s literally bull. The Snes name is way more of a beginning of that is holy. Like seriously? Genesis? LAME! 9. The Genesis design is nothing more than a black ship that can be used as a Star Trek prop. The Snes fit served only to entice the very great and best game development. Genesis doesn’t compare to the great white and great and purple superhero engineered by Nintendo. Also Nintendo’s console the Snes is NOT. Pale Not is it a monstrosity. 8. So what if it had famous people in genesis games. Genesis did NOT have such edge over Nintendo in this one. Also Nintendo had Howard, the literally game master for Nintendo. Michael jackson was accused and had allegations of being a child molester, yea...how does Sega have the edge again? 7. So? Sega version didn’t have blood unless you entered the secret code. The Snes beaten the genesis when they released mortal Kombat I for the Snes and it literally outsold the genesis 10:1. Nuff said. 6. The Super Nintendo controller is NOT overly complicated and it did NOT shave an overly complicated controller scheme and it didn’t have too many buttons to count. The Snes had a great and perfect size of numbers that utilizes the Sns capabilities and had two shoulder buttons that were used for all of generation of gaming. Nintendo revolutionized that controller design. Sega didn’t hit the sweet spot with their so called perfect and button control scheme. That control scheme sucked and it was difficult to play games like fighting games. The genesis controller in fact was the overly complicated controller and it had the overly complicated controller scheme. Sega’s 6 button controller isn’t perfect either. Also no, that didn’t give player the necessary tool to play the enhanced and better versions of the Super Nintendo ports which utilized the XYAB controllers perfectly and don’t forget the Snes shoulder buttons. Both Sega controllers are bulky and uncomfortable. 5. Those genesis sound tracks along with the genesis sound chips are overrated. The Snes had the SPC700 sound chip and another sound chip that can literally produce great music. Actually BOTH can do that on the Snes. Realism in their game music literally outshined the genesis and made the Snes more popular for their music. One of the Snes sound chips was made by Sony, the company who made the PlayStation. The Snes can produce the true electronic soundtracks that can pump up the excitement for and tofantastic leveled. So in reality, Sega isn’t special. Who says more realism is stupid and ridiculous in game music? 4. The most and best exclusives? What are you talking about. The number of quality Nintendo exclusives fFAR outnumbers anything on genesis. Bruh. Link to the Past, Super Mario World, Final Fantasy 2, F Zero, Plok, Kirby’s Dreamland, Megaman X, Final Fight, Earthbound, Illusion of Gaia, Clockwork, Uniracers, Super Metroid, Yoshi’s Island, Breath of Fire 2, Dragon Quest IV, Megaman 7, Doom,Wolfenstein, Star Fox, Tales of Phantasia, Ghoul Patrol, Metal Warriors, Stunt Race FX, Battletoads: Battle Maniacs, Indiana Jones Greatest Adventures, Act Raiser, Castlevania, Super Star Wars Series, Secret of Mana, Contra 3, the list literally goes on. The SNES has better quality exclusives. 3. Bruh Sega NEVER found a way to outdo the Nintendo and their Snes winnovations. Stunt Race FX is amazing. Virtua Eaxing? Screw that! Stunt Race FX is WAY better. Computer renders graphics worked WAY better than Vectorman. Donkey along Country does it WAY better than vectorman and it perfectly never misses a beat unlike Vectorman. Also the activator was about the most innovative piece of technology to have been born of the genesis era. That thing sucked and it could barley even work. You could barley even get that piece of junk to work. It couldn’t read your body movement as inputs. That’s wrong and false. Motion controls began wihen Nintendo released the power glove to the Nes. So you’re pretty much wrong there. 2. All of the add ons didn't make the genesis a versatile and powerful system. It actually made it on life support. The Snes simply CAN AND COULD keep up with those Sega failed adding. The Sega cDNA full motion video was garbage. Nintendo didn’t need it, MSU1 literally defeats genesis’s CD. The power of the genesis wasn’t tapped further with the 32X. That piece of junk sucks. And it didn’t double the bits from 16 to 32. Nintendo already had and made attempts to keep up with Sega, and they succeeded. They didn’t need to the Sony cd add on. Also why happened to Sony is they they got mad because Nintendo found out what Sony was trying to do, they were going to get all of the profits and leave Nintendo without a single time. Nintendo made the ant art move here. All of sega’s add ons that "powered" up the genesis all failed and faded into obscurity. Not looking too good, not looking too good. And now we go on to the biggest one. 1.Hoooo boy am I going to rip apart this one. Who CARES if Sega and the genesis had Sonic? Nintendo and the Super Nintendo had Mario, Link,Samus, Ness, Captain falcon, Fox, and Donkey Kong. Sega did not. Bruh Mario was literally the perfect embodiment of what that was righteous, great, colorful, bright and optimistic and also cool and brave and powerful in the world of video games. All of sonic’s Games didn’t clearly demonstrated this was the case. Not by a long shot. Nintendo’s mascot mario(also he isn’t chubby) wasn’t aging and he COULD and DID keep up with the gamers’ drier for a mascot that oozed with much gross energy. Sonic did NOT have the largest number of quality titles he starred in. Mario was the one that had the largest number of quality titles he starred in for the Snes. Also Mario had his presense in the comics, cartoons and great, perfect and spectacular merchandise tie ins s that are way better than Sonic and what he could come up with. MARIO and everything he had was the one who endured games knew where to turn for the best entertainment. And that is Mario who theybturn to. Also that top ten list on why Sonic is better than Mario is total biased and bogus crap. There’s factual reasons actually many factual and top ten factual reasons on why mario is better than Sonic And plus, Sonic is overrated and not that great. Many of his games including his classic ones have major flaws that Sega and Sonic fanboys like you tend to ignore. Also not to meantion that he had the WORSR fanbase ever in existence. Seriously, Sonic and Sega’s fanbase are nothing but whiny, insecure, braindead, toxic, annoying, lying,biased and false statement giving people in the planet and I can say that they are even WORSE than ALL of the fanbases in the world. Sonic and Sega are THAT bad. Plus Sonic’s games have been crud ever since the Dreamcast got its butt kicked by Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft. Oops did I went there? Oh yes I did. . Face it, Nintendo won the 16 Bit wars while Sega lost and had to resort to the Saturn which didn’t beat Nintendo, and the Dreamcast which flopped and resorted Sega to give up and join Nintendo and other companies as they now become third party making games for other console companies the big three, Microsoft, Sony, and sega’s main rival that they mocked so much, Nintendo. Nintendo won, Sega lost, your article is trash and biased. The facts and history already shown and proven Nintendo won. You’re a Sega fanboy, live with it. Case closed. Nintendo is better and they win the16 Bit wars and that’s a fact. LEVEL COMPLETED! Winner is: NINTENDO!!! Oh and by the way, here’s a list on why mario is better than Sonic. https://www.thetoptens.com/reasons-why-mario-is-better-than-sonic/ |
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Dude I’m gonna crush all of this. Also no. Most gamers look fondly back to the from 1989 to the mid 90s as a golden ages for Nintendo. The SNES hardware and software sales crushed and TROUNCES sega’s Genesis. The Snes name is original. Those reasons you put up are nothing but biased hogwash that can be told to anyone and they would still be Levite it because they are Sega sheep. And no. Nintendo has the clear and decisive victory. THAT is multifaceted. You segaliberals world readers are idiots. Nintendo had the clever tactics and genius inventions that they utilize to insure the Snes would cement its place as one of the greatest if not THE greatest console of all time. Nintendotive world readers UNITE!! How NINTENDO won the 16-Bit Wars and SEGA did not and LOST
10. Cool name doesn’t justify not explains why the genesis won. In fact it’s literally bull. T the Snes name is way more of a beginning of that is holy.
9. The sega’s Genesis design is nothing more than a black ship that can be used as a Star Trek prop. The Snes fit served only to entice the very great and best game development. Genesis doesn’t compare to the great white and great and purple superhero engineered by Nintendo. Also Nintendo’s console the Snes is NOT. Pale Not is it a monstrosity.
8. So what if it had famous people in genesis games. Genesis did NOT have such edge over Nintendo in this one. Also Nintendo had Howard, the literally game master for Nintendo. Michael jackson was accused and had allegations of being anpedophile, yea...sos how does Sega win again?
7. So? Sega version didn’t have blood unless you entered the secret code. The Snes beaten the genesis when they released mortal Kombat I for the Snes and it literally outsold the genesis 10-1. Nuff said.
6. The Super Nintendo controller is NOT overly complicated and it did NOT shave an overly complicated controller scheme and it didn’t have too many buttons to count. The Snes had a great and perfect size of numbers that utilizes the Sns capabilities and had two shoulder buttons that were used for all of generation of gaming. Nintendo revolutionized that controller design. Sega didn’t hit the sweet spot with their so called perfect and button control scheme. That control scheme sucked and it was difficult to play games like fighting games. The genesis controller in fact was the overly complicated controller and it had the overly complicated controller scheme. Sega’s 6 button controller isn’t perfect either. Also no, that didn’t give player the necessary tool to play the enhanced and better versions of the Super Nintendo ports which utilized the XYAB controllers perfectly and don’t forget the Snes shoulder buttons.
5. Those genesis sound tracks along with the genesis sound chips are overrated. The Snes had the SPC700 sound chip and another sound chip that can literally produce great music. Actually BOTH can do that on the Snes. Realism in their game music literally outshined the genesis and made the Snes more popular for their music. One of the Snes sound chips was made by Sony, the company who made the PlayStation. The Snes can produce the true electronic soundtracks that can pump up the excitement for and tofantastic leveled. So in reality, Sega isn’t special. Who says more realism is stupid and ridiculous in game music?
4. The most and best exclusives? What are you talking about. The number of quality Nintendo exclusives fFAR outnumbers anything on genesis. Bruh. Link to the Past, Super Mario World, Final Fantasy 2, F Zero, Plok, Kirby’s Dreamland, Megaman X, Final Fight, Earthbound, Illusion of Gaia, Clockwork, Uniracers, Super Metroid, Yoshi’s Island, Breath of Fire 2, Dragon Quest IV, Megaman 7, Doom,Wolfenstein, Star Fox, Tales of Phantasia, Ghoul Patrol, Metal Warriors, Stunt Race FX, Battletoads: Battle Maniacs, Indiana Jones Greatest Adventures, Act Raiser, Castlevania, Super Star Wars Series, Secret of Mana, Contra 3, the list literally goes on. The SNES has better quality exclusives.
3Bruh. Sega did NOT always found a way to outdo the Nintendo and their Snes winnovations. Stunt Race FX is amazing. Virtua Eaxing? Duck that! Stunt Race FX is WAY better. Computer renders graphics worked WAY better than Vectorman. Donkey along Country does it WAY better than vectorman and it perfectly never misses a beat unlike Vectorman. Also the activator was about the most innovative piece of technology to have been born of the genesis era. That thing sucked and it could barley even work. You could barley even get that piece of junk to work. It couldn’t read your body movement as inputs. That’s wrong and false. Motion controls began wihen Nintendo released the power glove to the Nes. So you’re pretty much wrong tho.
2. All of the add ons didn't the genesis a versatile and m powerful system. It actually made it on life support. the Snes simply CAN AND COULD keep up with those Sega failed adding. The Sega cDNA full motion video was garbage. Nintendo didn’t need it, MSU1 literally defeats genesis’s CD. The power of the genesis wasn’t tapped further with the 32X. That piece of junk sucks. And it didn’t double the bits from 16 to 32. Nintendo already had and made attempts to keep up with Sega, and they succeeded. They didn’t need to the Sony cd add on. Also why happened to Sony is they they got mad because Nintendo found out what Sony was trying to do, they were going to get all of the profits and leave Nintendo without a single time. Nintendo made the ant art move here. All of sega’s add ons that "powered" up the genesis all failed and faded into obscurity.
And now we go on to the biggest one.
1.Hoooo boy am I going to rip apart this one.
Who CARES if Sega and the genesis had Sonic? Nintendo and the Super Nintendo had Mario, Link,Samus, Ness, Captain falcon, Fox, and Donkey Kong. Sega did not. Bruh Mario was literally the perfect embodiment of what that was righteous, great, colorful, bright and optimistic and also cool and brave and powerful in the world of video games. All of sonic’s Games didn’t clearly demonstrated this was the case. Not by a long shot. Nintendo’s mascot mario(also he isn’t chubby) wasn’t aging and he COULD and DID keep up with the gamers’ drier for a mascot that oozed with much gross energy. Sonic did NOT have the largest number of quality titles he starred in. Mario was the one that had the largest number of quality titles he starred in for the Snes. Also Mario had his presense in the comics, cartoons and great, perfect and spectacular merchandise tie ins s that are way better than Sonic and what he could come up with. MARIO and everything he had was the one who endured games knew where to turn for the best entertainment. And that is Mario who theybturn to. Also that top ten list on why Sonic is better than Mario is total biased and bogus crap. There’s factual reasons actually many factual and top ten factual reasons on why mario is better than Sonic
And plus, Sonic is overrated and not that great. Many of his games including his classic ones have major flaws that Sega and Sonic fanboys like you tend to ignore. Also not to meantion that he had the WORSR fanbase ever in existence. Seriously, Sonic and Sega’s fanbase are nothing but whiny, insecure, braindead, toxic, annoying, lying,biased and false statement giving people in the planet and I can say that they are even WORSE than ALL of the fanbases in the world. Sonic and Sega are THAT bad. Plus Sonic’s games have been crud ever since the Dreamcast got its butt kicked by Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft. Oops did I went there? Oh yes I did.
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Face it, Nintendo won the 16 Bit wars while Sega lost and had to resort to the Saturn which didn’t beat Nintendo, and the Dreamcast which flopped and resorted Sega to give up and join Nintendo and other companies as they now become third party making games for other console companies the big three, Microsoft, Sony, and sega’s main rival that they mocked so much, Nintendo. Nintendo won, Sega lost, your article is trash and biased. The facts and history already shown and proven Nintendo won. You’re a Sega fanboy, live with it. Case closed. Nintendo is better and they win the16 Bit wars and that’s a fact. LEVEL COMPLETED! Winner is: NINTENDO!!! |
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You are mistaken about Nintendo beating Sega, and here's why. (And they are both legit again). The industry was shifting. Back in the 90s, games were expensive to make, and a game that appealed to 100 people was expensive to make, while a game that appealed to 10,000 people was inexpensive. This meant that games had to be more of an entertainment medium, rather than a means to an end. AAA titles were difficult to make and expensive to market.
In fact, so expensive were games that one needed to acquire several very expensive games just to launch a console. After consoles were no longer exclusive, and saw the influx of new mobile platforms like smartphones and tablets, this industry shift hurt the leading "grandfather" consoles like Nintendo, Sega, and Sony, though it will likely not make up the difference between current-generation and next-generation gamers. While game industry analyst Michael Pachter notes that the shift would favor consumers whose budgets are limited, the industry may already be moving in this direction. "There are fewer consoles to buy if a console maker has lost some of the revenue it lost from zero-to-60 sales," Pachter writes. "If that's the case, it's harder to justify investing in high-end games for each console."
Then there are the lingering concerns about operating costs. A Sony spokesperson said "the important thing" to Microsoft and Sony is "to try and make Xbox One and PlayStation 4 players happy", but also "share the excitement of what's to come".
I am no Xbox One user so I don't know if they are targeting retail customers or customers that will be buying the console at a later date. The product itself seems very capable and I have no doubt that there will be a lot of people who buy the console purely for the content offered on the service. However, what was rather concerning to me was that Sony was echoing Microsoft's argument regarding how cost effectively it is to offer the service. My sources tell me that the costs for an Xbox One are around $60 - £40, or even less, when you account for tax. Xbox 360s will obviously run about $150, and PS3s are about $250. The Xbox One has no Kinect and it doesn't support custom controllers. There are a lot of advantages to the console, but if you're only after one, you may as well go the pro-activision route and grab a PS4 instead.
We'll be sure to tell you when the price of an Xbox One is announced. |
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You are mistaken about Nintendo beating Sega, and here's why. Nintendo is the most innovative company in the world right now. Nintendo doesn't just have a better game system than Sega. Nintendo is actually innovating on many fronts that Sega is not.Nintendo is a console company that focuses on software and hardware, not graphics. As such, Nintendo has so far the most successful series of games on the system. Games like Mario Kart, Donkey Kong, and Pokemon Smash compete in the same hardware area as the biggest single titles on Xbox 360, PlayStation 3, and Wii. Sony and Microsoft have shown no interest in entering the arena of the Wii and PlayStation 3, the most profitable areas in console gaming.
In what many people find baffling, the Nintendo 64 remains a viable gaming console despite the N64's aging technology. The reason for this isn't the addition of new hardware like the Wii U or 3DS. No, it has everything to do with Nintendo working with hardware companies, developers, and media alike to bring games to Nintendo's consoles. To quote Nintendo's VP of Sales and Marketing, Reggie Fils-Aimé, "We stay on the cutting edge of technology and the best technologies in the industry."
Nintendo has been using free-to-play (F2P) models to generate high-margin revenue for years now, the former Vice President of QA, Leslie Benzies, explains, "With free-to-play models you get the premium and they [players] get a lot of the value from their money." Games are no different in this regard, and their game features and mechanics have been consistently updated and enhanced with modern, stable technology.
Looking at Nintendo's most recent launch title, Splatoon, the Switch runs on a Linux-based operating system. This isn't just a clever way to shave a couple of months off the launch of the console, but a measure that Nintendo specifically selected for the Switch's limited video-processing power, in order to keep the console competitive with other high-end gaming consoles out on the market. Nintendo's next generation consoles are going to be using ARM-based processors (a processing architecture inspired by that of the microprocessor used in Apple's iPhone), which translates to a substantial leap in performance and games. There are several reasons Nintendo is switching its focus to mobile gaming, but this article will focus on how games can be played on both phones and tablets.
In short, F2P is the future of gaming, it's the next frontier of the gaming industry and also the next plaything of opportunistic capitalists with deep pockets. "This is the true death of the Beeper!" was a theme that repeated throughout 1983. "Nintendo's Beeper game is a huge story!" was another common phrase. "As important as Beeper is, Sega beat Nintendo to it!" was even more popular. Nintendo still sells the right side of its "Beep-Os" to kids, but it is now mostly seen on the left-hand side. "Game Jolt did it first! They beat Nintendo and beat Sega to Beeper!" was the dominant message. What is not true is that the Atari 2600 had a similar video game in 1983. This game was called |
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Dude, you are way off about the Atari 2600 beating the Sega Beeper. Not only that, the Atari 2600's function was far superior to the Beeper. My advice to you: get a Gameshark for your older Atari 2600 games. Be that as it may, this set of Atari 2600 games does not come with a keyboard. In order to actually play these Atari 2600 games, you will need to grab a keyboard from a nearby store and plug it into your Atari 2600 cartridge slot. However, I feel that it is unfair to the Atari 2600/Sega pilot to make this review without a keyboard. So here we go: In the Action/Arcade Section, you get the following games: F-1 Grand Prix, F-1 Race Stars, Grand Theft Auto (SP), John Elway's Quarterback (just a game, it's very fun) and Motorcross World Championship. They also have Japanese (Mahatma) and European release of Motorcross: World Championship, in which you can choose between First and Second division.
Hazardous Action/Arcade Section: You get the following games: Metal Slug, Sonic X, Bartman, M.U.L.E. (one of my all time favorite arcade games) and Rocket League.
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