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Ocarina of Time 3D... a 3DS "killer app"? [poll]
 
For sure! (10/46 votes)
 22%
Sort of! (21/46 votes)
 46%
Nope! (15/46 votes)
 33%
 
The latest issue of Nintendo Power reviews the game and on their main review page they say "It's official: you need a Nintendo 3DS." As if this is the game worth buying a 3DS for.

Anand and Panda got into this briefly on the last podcast, and they both seemed to be saying what I think as well, that erm... it's kind of just a port/remake, which isn't nearly as exciting as say, a new Zelda or Mario would be. Yeah it's probably the definitive version of what is considered one of the best games ever made, what with new graphics, sleeker controls, both the original and Master Quest, boss battle, etc. On the other hand, it's still basically Ocarina of Time... again.

On the other hand I was never the biggest OOT fan, so maybe I'm a bit biased. On the other other hand, I wouldn't get super excited about a Metroid Prime or Resident Evil 4 remake either.

Hmm. How many times have I said on the other hand so far?

Anyway, what do you guys think? Is this the first 3DS killer app? Or is it just another port/remake? Or something in between?

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Posted: 05/27/11, 23:54:31  - Edited by 
 on: 05/28/11, 02:57:27
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It just depends on the player. If they've already played it, then no. If they haven't, then there's no better time than now to finally play it and it probably could be considered THE reason to buy a 3DS now. I guess the real hardcore fans could also fit in the category of considering it to be the killer app but I'm personally not that excited for it. Will I still pick it up? Yes... most likely, but it's nothing I'm going crazy over since it's a game I already played with almost nothing new to it. I'm honestly not sure why I'm getting it I might wait a bit for it since there's better games coming out around the same time.
Posted: 05/27/11, 23:58:17  - Edited by 
 on: 05/27/11, 23:59:22
Somewhere in between, and I have my reasons for saying so.

It is a killer app in the sense that it will likely boost system sales. Sure, games like PilotWings Resort, Super Street Fighter IV 3D Edition, and Dead or Alive Dimensions are good, but those franchises aren't system sellers (though one could argue the Street Fighter franchise is, I'm not buying it). Zelda is. Twilight Princess sold 454,000 copies in its first week on the Wii (or for every four Wiis sold, three copies of Twilight Princess sold).

That said, it's a graphically updated port of a thirteen year-old game. Am I excited about it? Yeah. Killer app? Well...not really. I've played it to death. I'm purchasing it, but like you said, it's just Ocarina of Time...again.
Posted: 05/28/11, 00:03:46
It is, sort of.

It's not the killer app in the same way that the new Super Mario or Mario Kart (or brand-new Legend of Zelda) will be. But it's the game that actually has a lot of people drooling over. As anecdotal evidence, a lot of the posters over at badcartridge.com can't wait to get their hands on it. In fact, some of them aren't even buying the 3DS until the remake comes out. (!)

Which kind of bugs me, because usually people always whine about wanting new franchises and IPs out of Nintendo. However, games like Eternal Darkness, Battalion Wars, Elite Beat Agents, The Legendary Starfy, etc. don't even get a million sales. Fire Emblem (which was technically new to any North American gamer) didn't even get very good sales, at least from what I remember.

But OMG Ocarina of Time is being remade, and suddenly everybody's on board. The frothing demand for a remake of 13 year old game from a franchise that sees multiple new releases every generation increases daily. Meanwhile, Excitebots cries itself to sleep in the far corner of the room.
Posted: 05/28/11, 00:12:15
Not really. Ocarina of Time is one of my favourite games ever and I'm not hyped for this because it's simply a port/remake. Not gonna make me buy a 3DS, like a new Zelda game would.

Mario Kart 3DS is my killer app right now.

Edit: @ Grant
But Excitebots was just a reskinned ExciteTruck! [/stupidity]
Don't worry, I cry along with it. But our tears eventually become tears of joy because we have so much fun together.
Posted: 05/28/11, 00:14:17  - Edited by 
 on: 05/28/11, 00:17:10
Sort of. I've stated it before, and I will state it again; Ocarina of Time will open the eyes of Zelda Moms that like Zelda games and they just assumed they would be able to play OoT on their kids' DSes. When they figure out otherwise, there will be a spike in sales.
Posted: 05/28/11, 01:01:47  - Edited by 
 on: 05/28/11, 01:03:09
Yeah, you summarized my position pretty accurately. Same as yours. Best version, looks decent, yada yada, but how can a 10-year-old game that is available on multiple platforms be a killer app?

Whatever. Whatever gets asses in seats.
Posted: 05/28/11, 01:13:10
@Deerock69 ... "Zelda moms"?

BTW I didn't really make it clear in my OP, but I meant "killer app" as in a game that should get true-blooded gamers telling their friends OMG YOU HAVE TO PLAY THIS GAME. I dunno, it is tough to put into words, but I think you guys know what I mean. Like, pretty much everyone with a Wii should at least check out Super Mario Galaxy, but I'm not sure if everyone needs to get excited about a game they already played.

Not necessarily meaning a game that will sell systems, because Ocarina of Time will definitely sell some systems.

With that said, my "killer app" is going to be... the eShop. I never had a DSi so basically I will have access to a bunch of awesome downloadables all at once! I also never played much Gameboy / GBC either so a lot of that will be new to me as well. It'd be pretty sweet to get Link's Awakening at eShop launch, or at least something of that calibre. Yeah I realize I'm getting excited about something that also isn't new, for the most part, but I'm also not running around telling other people that the eShop is the 3DS killer app. And I'm only half serious anyway.
Posted: 05/28/11, 01:42:14  - Edited by 
 on: 05/28/11, 01:54:27
I want to say "for sure". But heathens will be heathens. So I went with went "sort of" with an option on "for sure".

Zero said:
@Deerock69but I meant "killer app" as in a game that should get true-blooded gamers telling their friends OMG YOU HAVE TO PLAY THIS GAME.

Well technically that's what OoT IS...except all that already happened 13 years ago. How much that will happen now (amongst the section of the market that never played the original)...I don't know.

Fingers crossed. I mean I never got into Nintendogs, but I'm glad it turned the DS into the monster it was. Those not enamored of OoT should be hoping for a similar thing here.
Posted: 05/28/11, 01:57:19
Not at all. If a port is your killer app, you're in trouble. We'll see much better.

This is just a stepping stone to the real games.

Now if it was a total REMAKE...
Posted: 05/28/11, 02:04:18
@Shadowlink Yeah but that's the point, it did happen 13 years ago. Sure it may be new to some but most of us have played it already and for those that haven't, it's not going to be the same experience that it was 13 years ago.

Now, if it was a total REMAKE...
Posted: 05/28/11, 02:54:25
Zero said:
@Shadowlink and for those that haven't, it's not going to be the same experience that it was 13 years ago. .

Well I don't know about that. I'm possibly biased, but I do think the game holds up just as well in terms of experience today as it did 13 years ago. (In terms of gameplay and general atmosphere anyway). The graphics are probably the one area where it will look dated, but those have got a nice fresh coat of paint. Plus it's on the 3DS, so people won't be expecting 360/PS3 quality. I think it will still make a strong impression on the newbs.
Posted: 05/28/11, 03:04:54  - Edited by 
 on: 05/28/11, 03:05:34
Strong impression sure, but "just as well"? I dunno. I mean, some of the appeal was like OMG LOOK HOW HUGE THIS FIELD IS although actually the big empty field kind of annoyed me personally. It's just not that groundbreaking releasing in 2011.
Posted: 05/28/11, 03:14:38
"ZELDA IN 3D!!!" was kind of a HUGE part of the draw for me. I mean, you can say the same now with stereoscopic 3D but... not the same. :p
Posted: 05/28/11, 03:20:33
Zero said:
On the other hand, it's still basically Ocarina of Time... again.

If you by "again" you mean "for the second time," then sure. But I don't get the whole "OoT gets milked so hard" thing. It was available as a free bonus two times and then on the VC. OoT3D is really the only re-release Nintendo has done.

As for if it's a killer app, I think so. It's an easy recommendation.

"Hey, what 3DS game should I get?"

"You should check out Ocarina of Time."

"Oh, yeah, I loved that game on the N64!" OR "I still haven't played it, might as well now!" OR "Nah"
Posted: 05/28/11, 03:28:36  - Edited by 
 on: 05/28/11, 03:29:46
What difference does it make if it was free or not? It still remains that it has been released in multiple formats over the years and although this is a huge step forward in graphics/etc. it's still the same game again.

Actually Master Quest was more exciting to me because it was a bunch of new content.
Posted: 05/28/11, 03:34:50
@Zero

Actually the field wasn't what made the impression on me. It was the music & the sense of wonder I got from discovering secrets & solving the puzzles.

Probably what a lot of you felt when you first played the original or ALttP. First Zelda experience will count for a lot here too. If they've played Zelda before, but not OoT then the "wow" factor will be far less.

Then again, maybe not. I know I didn't really get that "wow" factor as much from Wind Waker, but Twilight Princess brought it back. So part of it at least is game dependent.

Honestly, we're just going to have to wait and see how the game is received I think. Could go either way.
Posted: 05/28/11, 03:43:50  - Edited by 
 on: 05/28/11, 03:45:35
Not for me. I can play it right now on a bigger screen and more comfy controller. But I'm not a big handheld guy.
Posted: 05/28/11, 04:20:38
I had to think about this a bit. I do love OoT. The inclusion of the Master Quest and the Boss Rush mode is cool, but not all too amazing. Boss Rush doesn't really bring new content to the table; it just slaps a new menu and timer on existing content. And, how hard is it to (probably) use the previous Master Quest puzzles but mirror the world? The graphics and animation update is nice and I know the 3D will be slick, but the music could have used a well-deserved reworking. Item management will be a hell of a lot better.

Even with the certain improvements and the fact that I do still love OoT, I concluded that it's not a killer app because I'm not going to go buy a 3DS for it. I can wait for more games and a possible 3DS price drop or revision.
Posted: 05/28/11, 04:47:13
@Zero

Zelda Moms. My sister is one. Sally Fields is another. They play every Zelda title that comes out. My sister, for example, may not even be aware the 3DS exists. She will when she sees this, and she will get a 3DS on that day or shortly thereafter.

That's why I call it 'sort of' a killer app. It will sell systems to quite a few that did not previously have it. There are also several posters on GAF that will be picking one up when Zelda launches. If a game forces somebody's hand into picking up a system, then it falls into Killer App territory. Sort of.
Posted: 05/28/11, 04:47:24  - Edited by 
 on: 05/28/11, 04:56:42
@Shadowlink The field was just an example. My point was that, whatever the case, it's just not going to have the same impact on most people that it did 13 years ago. It's a bit been there done that now, and even if someone hasn't played it yet, so many games since OOT have ripped it in some form such that it will feel a bit familiar.
Posted: 05/28/11, 04:47:58
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