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Best/Worst Remakes in Videogames (and movies) [roundtable]
 
Inspired by @Xbob42, I have decided to create a roundtable about the best/worst remakes in videogames and movies. I'll start with one of each.

Good Videogame Remake:
Resident Evil (Gamecube): This game is vastly superior to the original. The graphics, atmosphere, acting, sound effects, everything is better.

Bad Videogame Remake:
Final Fantasy IV DS: The remake itself isn't bad. It's just that I prefer the old graphics to the new polygonal ones and I also prefer the original music to the rearranged DS music. I feel that something was lost in translation in both terms.

Good Movie Remake:
The Ring: Acting, atmosphere, music, story, etc. was better in this version than in the original version.

Bad Movie Remake:
The Eye: This movie was really bland compared to the original Cantonese version which is one of the creepiest movies I've ever seen.

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Posted: 04/07/13, 11:09:35  - Edited by 
 on: 04/07/13, 11:12:04
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@Mr_Mustache
Worst Matthew Broderick movie ever!

@gojira
All Monsters Attack! That's what I'm talking about, cinema at it's finest. When I was a kid I had this giant Godzilla figure and if you hit a red switch on the back of his head little plastic flames came out of his mouth and his hands were spring-loaded and would shoot off his body! Radness.

@GameDadGrant
Dracula X Chronicles! Nice one! That game was amazing, I need to revisit it soon, it's one of those games I bought on UMD but I should rebuy on PSN to play on ma Vita.

@Hinph
Yeah the demo made it seem like "holy shit awesome, Kojima is really interested in this tech and the whole game is going to be remastered to take advantage of the 3-D and to pump up the graphics!!! Then the actual game came out and it became evident that about 1/1000th the effort that went into the demo went into the actual game.
Posted: 04/08/13, 14:58:40  - Edited by 
 on: 04/08/13, 15:10:10
I wonder, would Spiritual Successors count. If so then Bioshock definitely counts as a great one, surpasses System Shock 2 in my opinion.
Posted: 04/08/13, 15:16:15
Good Videogame Remake:
Resident Evil (Gamecube): I've got to agree here. Still controls like a tank, but the visuals and audio were much improved over the original.

Metroid: Zero Mission (Game Boy Advance): This made the original more playable, and even had a nice addition to it.

NiGHTS Into Dreams... (PSN/XBLA): The same game with a fresh graphical coat of paint, it's still fun. No new music, but it didn't need it.

Bad Videogame Remake:
Sonic Adventure DX: Director's Cut: It's running on a more powerful system, but is less stable. Bad framerate issues and a terrible camera (which I thought would be fixed for the "Director's Cut"). Game Gear games included, this package isn't fun at all.

I'm not a huge movie buff, so I can't speak for those...
Posted: 04/08/13, 16:39:24
Hinph said:
OoT 3D is certainly the quintessential version of the game, in every way. I won't replay any other version.

I agree overall, though I'll admit I do miss the original Fire Temple music, and the RED blood. Everything else though is far, far better on 3DS.

@deathly_hallows

Another The Dracula X Chronicles fan! Nice! *high five*

@ludist210

Ah, good call on the NiGHTS: Into Dreams... remake. Game is still a blast...for some reason. My "logic brain" says it shouldn't be fun, the game is just racing through rings! But my "fun brain" says shut up this is awesome. And yeah, the music was always phenomenal, so no need to change that at all.
Posted: 04/08/13, 22:40:05
I picked up NiGHTS on PSN, it's pretty cool but I still don't totally "get" it. I always just plan in original mode anyway though.
Posted: 04/08/13, 22:48:25
@Hinph @GameDadGrant

They ruined the ending with the second credits sequence. The original is still the best version.
Posted: 04/08/13, 22:53:52
Good remake: Super Mario All-Stars
Bad remake: Altered Beast
Posted: 04/08/13, 23:59:21
ludist210 said:
Good Videogame Remake:
NiGHTS Into Dreams... (PSN/XBLA): The same game with a fresh graphical coat of paint, it's still fun. No new music, but it didn't need it.

Funny... I file this under my list of WORST remakes. They ****ed up the analogue controls, which was the #1 most important thing to get right in my mind. The remake does not do the original justice. In fact it tardy's the good name of the original for those who never played it.
Posted: 04/09/13, 01:05:06
gojira said:
@Mr_Mustache

Have you even seen this movie?


Is that....Minba? I forgot his name...
Posted: 04/09/13, 01:16:47
@Wellsy529 I was wondering how long it'd take before someone mentioned Super Mario All-Stars. That's still the best compilation to ever be compiled.
Posted: 04/09/13, 01:47:55
@Mop it up

The Wii one or the SNES one?
Posted: 04/09/13, 01:51:34
@Jargon

Eh. "Second" part of the ending (which should just be called the *new* part of the ending) didn't bother me at all. Didn't ruin the *ENTIRE* game for me, either. I like the orchestrated music, to boot! So...yeah.

@nacthenud

Game is awesome, and the recent update fixed the analog controls. Which weren't even THAT bad to begin with. Still a great remake.
Posted: 04/09/13, 04:27:55
Posted: 04/09/13, 04:56:34
Good game remake:
Zero Mission, Mario All Stars, Resident Evil (in graphics anyway), Kirby Super Star Deluxe (at least I think? It looks pretty sweet), Kirby: Nightmare in Dreamland

Bad game remake:
Turtles in Time for XBLA. Ewwwwwww, Cave Story on 3DS (haven't played it...but it looks to have lost 80% of its charm)
Posted: 05/02/13, 08:27:22
@Pokefreak911
You're like the only person who seems to think that. I never played SS2 (at least not more than 10 mins trying it out or messing around on bro's game, which I really regret) but I could tell it's awesome. Seems better than BS to me. The story was better and was the obvious..."inspiration" for BS' story...
Posted: 05/02/13, 09:47:05
@carlosrox
Bioshock and SS2 had almost exactly the same story. Play it and you realise that. What Bioshock has that is better if the atmosphere. That alone makes it better.
Posted: 05/02/13, 10:48:33
@Pokefreak911
Are you sure about that? From what I've seen and played the atmosphere in SS2 was nothing to scoff at. It may not have the production values of 2007 or 2013, but that's irrelevant. The intro alone with the 67 Trillion Miles from Earth and that amazing music seems atmospheric enough. I wish games today did shit like that.

Many say the game is pretty terrifying as well, as well as the intense level of isolation. Bioshock had the exact same story. Exactly. All they did was copy SS2's story over. It was like a rewrite. So I wouldn't give Bioshock any credit there.

And back to atmosphere, I think it might depend on what you value. They both have amazing atmosphere in their own ways.
Posted: 05/02/13, 13:11:22
@carlosrox
I'm a MASSIVE Sci-Fi fan and yeah, System Shock 2 has a certain atmosphere, but Bioshock was better for me. Also the morals for most of the people in game are polar opposites of mine so that also made it all the more interesting. It also seemed to have a more fleshed out world and better characters. Enemies had more personality as well.

System Shock 2 is still a fantastic game and I need to finish it one of these days but Bioshock is better in my opinion.
Posted: 05/02/13, 15:04:04
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