I'm playing Devil May Cry 2 right now and it's a pretty horrible game. I'd stop playing it but I want to finish it at least once and be done with it, since I want to play the entire Devil May Cry saga. The graphics are boring and so is the gameplay. The music is lazy and can hardly be heard over the guns. The story? What story? It's just some cutscenes interconnected in between boring easy battles. This game is pretty disappointing, especially after having played Devil May Cry 1 immediately before.

What are some of your gaming disappointments?

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Modern Ninja Gaiden 2 was a big disappointment. Ninja Gaiden/Ninja Gaiden Black being my all-time favourite game, I was sorely disappointed by the sharp fall in quality that was NG2. NG3 wasn't really a disappointment because I wasn't expecting good things anymore.

@nacthenud I wasn't too let down with Ninja Gaiden 2 (Sigma). I thought the weapons were improved tremendously, and though the level design was a bit too straightforward, every time I replay Ninja Gaiden Black I sort of wish I could just skip the platforming parts. It's certainly a step down from the (Xbox) original overall, but I was pleasantly surprised after it got middling reviews.

Black Ops. comparing it to other Treyarch games which I liked such as World at War. I hated the new physics they put in and refuse to play any of their games using it. Another disappointment in gaming is the lack of a Mario Paint for Wii, Wii U or DS/3DS. all of these systems would be perfect for it, especially Wii U now with the sharing aspect. for 3DS I'd have street pass functionality where your art or clips is signed by you has your mii attached to it and gets passed around to other people. I'd also have 3ds/wii U cross platform sharing and playing

@HammerLord I'm surprised someone actually agreed with me, I had this feeling that people were just waiting around with pitchforks. I don't just mean the gameplay of Brawl, but also the style and theme is more like a traditional fighter. It's a lot more dramatic than previous games, and the art style represents this as well. Anyways yeah, your view of the first game is pretty much like mine so I don't have much to add. For me, the series is also about duking it out with Nintendo characters, I could do without the extra crap that's basically a spastic tribute/advertisement for Nintendo.

@anon_mastermind I was okay with that extra stuff in Melee since back then there wasn't much like it on the Internet. But by the time Brawl came around, it all just felt so pointless to me, as the Internet provides a much better quantity of such things. The original game has no frills and it's a great game for it. Also, the game can't be both ways, because all the extras take away resources that should be spent on the part of the game that actually matters: characters and stages. It's an either/or situation, as Brawl has proved.

I don't know that Brawl has proven that. For all we know it could be completely different teams of people working on the different parts.

@Mop it up

Somebody always agrees with somebody on here. Not sure if any one person is completely alone on any topic/game.

@Zero But they all share the same budget, which surely has a limit.

I loved FF7. Like, a lot. I actually had it on my PC way back when. I even played the first ten or so hours using a crappy, old graphics card and everything was in slow-motion. Luckily, I updated my card not long after (to play the original Half Life) so things went smooooothly from then-on.

I also love Brawl, although in retrospect Melee plays better. I refuse to go backwards though, which might be strange. I also love the trophies and such and I really don't think they'll do away with that aspect in the next one. It might have good online though... Would that be worth giving it a chance?

You know what WAS very disappointing though? The Subspace Emissary mode in Brawl. It was super-boring. The cutscenes were great, but the game was BLAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.

As far as this Final Fantasy talk goes, Final Fantasy VII is actually the second Final Fantasy game that I played, with the first being the NES original. We first had it for the PC, but, I didn't play it until we got a PlayStation in 1999. I enjoyed the game, I had a file with nearly 100 hours on it and just about everything completed. Even back then I thought the character models were weird and ugly, and didn't like the fixed camera angles since the N64 got me liking full 3D games. Beyond that though I thought it was good... until I found Final Fantasy II in the back of a Media Play store. Despite the primitive presentation and translation, for some reason the game just felt more exciting, and the characters more engaging. Years later I would also come across Final Fantasy III in an EB Games, and couldn't believe how much better it was than the very next game made after it. It's like a complete reversal.

Today, I think FFVII is good until you leave Midgar, then it falls apart. I can definitely see why it had such an impact, its release was perfect timing and all, but it hasn't aged well and is certainly no timeless classic. In the end, I can't call it disappointing since I never had any expectations beforehand, but, I agree that it's one of the weakest FF games. Nothing compares to FFVIII, though... *shudders*

Final Fantasy IX was definitely good, however I haven't yet played any after that so I can't say whether or not it was the last good FF.

@Mop it up
Your thoughts on Final Fantasy are pretty much the same as mine. FF7 does seem to fall apart after Midgar, FF8 WAS awful, and FF9 was a gem.

I did enjoy FF10 quite a bit myself. There was the usual angst and such, but the story, battle system, characters and designs won me over.
I bought FFX-2 but I didn't make it too far into that one.

@ploot I got a PS2 last year, and I'll be playing FFX soon enough, it should be interesting. I also have FFX-2 and FFXII in the pipeline, so I'll have a more complete view on the FF series before long. My sister has a PS3 with FFXIII so I may also be able to give that one a try at some point as well.

@ploot

Yea, Melee and Brawl is kind of a weird situation because playing either of them makes you miss the things that are better in the other. Makes you wish for a mythical version that combines the best of the two (fingers crossed for Wii U version!). That said, they're two of the best games of all time and are a joy to play. Melee is the better game, but like you, I can't really go back often, I prefer to play Brawl these days because of the extra stuff and because they just upped the level of craziness so much.

Sim City 2013 is so far and away the most disappointing game I've ever played in my 31 years on planet Earth it isn't even funny.

@GameDadGrant I disagree with @Xbob42. Skip the GBA release and buy it on the Wii VC. The music is sooooo much better on the original version and really adds to the game. Also skip the PS1 port. The load times are horrendous and the music is worse than the GBA, for some reason.

By the way, I love Final Fantasy VII & VII and Metal Gear Solid 4. They are three of my favorite games of all time.

@Mop it up The budget might be based on the content though. If they pulled that content, they would probably just knock down the budget anyway.

@sirmastersephiroth The music is better, sure, but unless they use the improved translation (I have no idea if they do.) for the VC release, play the GBA version. Considering it's a game about a STORY, having the story be as good and legible as possible is a far bigger deal than the music sounding a little more tinny.

Xbob42 said:

@sirmastersephiroth The music is better, sure, but unless they use the improved translation (I have no idea if they do.) for the VC release, play the GBA version. Considering it's a game about a STORY, having the story be as good and legible as possible is a far bigger deal than the music sounding a little more tinny.

The story in Final Fantasy VI (III) is not that complex. And the translation is FAR better than the one in Final Fantasy IV (II). I never had any problem understanding what was going on and I played this when I was a kid.

After reading, @Xbob42's response, I fired up my GBA cartrige to listen to the music. I stand firm on the fact that playing any other version first would be a disservice since the soundtrack is butchered. And the soundtrack in Final Fantasy VI is phenomenal. I say experience the SNES (VC) version first, and then play the GBA version if you want to re-experience it. Skip the PS1 version entirely.

I also stand by the original translation. I was also very disappointed in the new translation, story-wise, not item-wise. The original translation made the characters seem tougher than in the new translation. Here are some examples of how the new translation butchers the way we view the characters.

@sirmastersephiroth
I've...only played the...PS1 version....

*runs*

Simple solution: Learn Japanese and play the original version on SNES

sirmastersephiroth said:

I also stand by the original translation. I was also very disappointed in the new translation, story-wise, not item-wise. The original translation made the characters seem tougher than in the new translation. Here are some examples of how the new translation butchers the way we view the characters.

Oh man, I never realized how much they changed the translation for the GBA version (I've only played the SNES version). That... doesn't sound good.