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Top 10 Improvements That I Would Like to See in Xenoblade Chronicles 2 (aka "X") [top ten]
 
I’m finally nearing the end of Xenoblade Chronicles after playing it for nearly 80 hours over the course of of about 7 months, and by nearing the end I mean that I may only end up spending another good 20-30 hours on it. That’s just the way that it goes, and others who have played this game know exactly what I am talking about; it digs its claws into you and demands that you give your life over to it. This may be the most time that I have ever put into a single video game outside of Advance Wars, and that’s not really a fair comparison, because Advance Wars had a map editor.

Xenoblade Chronicles has become not just one of my favorite Wii games and not just one of my favorite RPGs, but one of my favorite games of all-time, period. There are so many things that it gets right, including a massive, highly explorable world, sleek gameplay mechanics, stellar visuals and sound, and a decidedly epic storyline. However, it is not a perfect game (what game is?), and it leaves plenty of room for improvement in a sequel.

Recently Nintendo fans were blessed with one of the best Nintendo Directs yet, and this included, among other announcements, the official debut of the next console game from the creators of Xenoblade Chronicles (Monolith Soft), complete with a trailer. No name was given to this game, although it is often dubbed “X” because of the famous Xeno series X that appeared at the end of the trailer. It is still a bit unclear exactly how it ties into Xenoblade Chronicles, but due to the Xeno X is can be assumed that, at the very least, this is the next game in the Xeno series.. Still, it looked an awful darn lot like a sequel to Xenoblade Chronicles, so for the sake of this list, I’m going to refer to the upcoming game as Xenoblade Chronicles 2 from this point forth.

I am super excited for Xenoblade Chronicles 2, and the trailer seems to point at a lot more than a mere rehash, so here is hoping for something that can surpass the already lofty original. Check out the awesome Xenoblade Chronicles 2 trailer, and then read up on improvements that I would like to see make their way into the game!

02/12/13, 02:26    Edited: 04/08/13, 04:58
 
   
 
Create a better balance between sidequest rewards and overall difficulty
Xenoblade Chronicles is a massive game with an even more massive amount of side quests. IGN claims that there are over 400 sidequests in the game, and I can believe it. That actually seems like a rather low estimate to me.

Unlike most RPGs that I have played, I got heavily into the sidequests in Xenoblade Chronicles. It’s difficult not to, really. A lot of them aren’t even necessarily enjoyable for their own sake, but they are right there in front of you, and they become difficult to ignore. However, it wasn’t until about 10 or 15 hours into the game that I started getting heavily into the sidequests. Up to that point, the basic monster battles in the game kept me on my toes, and the boss fights were pretty brutal; just the way I like it. However, once I started doing a bunch of the sidequests, my characters started becoming way too powerful, both in their core levels, as well as through utilizing the weapons and gear that I would gain for completing the sidequests.

In theory this makes sense; players should get some kind of reward for completing additional quests, and the most obvious reward is something that strengthens their characters. But what about players that actually enjoy a challenge? Is it really a reward to give us things that will take that challenge away from us? Making the game easier for this type of player can become a penalty, not a reward. There are some ways to get around this, for instance, obtaining new weapons and gear and then not equipping them. But I always mentally rebel against artificial ways of making a game tougher. I feel more comfortable when the difficulty comes from the intended flow of the game.

I don’t have any surefire solutions for this conundrum, as I am not a game designer. However, a few things come to mind. The World Ends With You had a system where the player could manually lower their level and obtain additional rewards the lower that they set their level. Of course, this would result in more awesome gear, so it doesn’t totally solve the issue, but you could use that better gear to lower your level even more, so at least it gives you the option of getting caught up in a cycle that leads to some tough encounters. Another solution might be offering weapons and gear through sidequests that aren’t necessarily superior, but merely different, which would reward the player with having more options for customizing their experience, but would not turn them into a powerhouse in the process.
 
Have more fluid animation in the secondary cutscenes
I’m not sure exactly what the best way to word this is, but those of you who have played RPGs will probably understand what I am talking about. Many RPGs have two levels of cutscenes; the main story ones, which are given the most polish (and in the past often used to be FMV), and the secondary ones used to handle the side story sequences, optional story sequences, etc. (which have almost always used in-game resources.) I understand why two levels of cutscenes exist; developers have a limited amount of time and resources to put into their games, and most RPGs already have a ton of cutscenes that need to be made for the main storyline, so it would not be feasible to put this much attention into all of the secondary ones as well.

I get that. However, in the case of Xenoblade Chronicles, the gap is pretty severe. The animation in the main cutscenes is very well done; in the secondary ones, not so much. You often have to watch a character standing still and talking to another, just to stop talking, turn their back on the character they are talking to, walk to another position, turn to face the character they were speaking to, stand still, and start talking again. It’s very disjointed, and unfortunately, it took me out of the game a bit, and killed some of the immersion.

I can’t really complain about this one too much, as many RPGs just use static 2D character portraits for these kind of interactions. However, I’d like to see something a little better. The Mass Effect series managed to handle a ton of side / optional interactions with animation that still felt fairly natural, and I believe that Xenoblade Chronicles 2 could pull this off as well.


Huge, impressive environments... now in HD!!!
 
Give us auto-equip functionality for weapons / gear / etc.
So I mentioned above that there are, if IGN is correct, over 400 sidequests in this game, and that most of these sidequests come with rewards in the way of weapons, gear, etc. There is also a pretty neat gem crafting system in Xenoblade Chronicles where you can find or create gems to add to your gear that can buffer your various character stats. All of this stuff is awesome and I’m glad that it is in the game. However, after a certain point, I just kind of started ignoring it for long stretches of time. It simply became too tedious to constantly keep up with managing the weapons and gear for all of my characters. For an RPG that is otherwise pretty progressive, it kind of surprises me that it has no auto-equip functionality, something that has existed for ages in RPGs to help streamline some of the monotony of equipping characters.

I can understand and even agree with the argument that auto-equip functionality can diminish the joy of customization to some degree. And certainly when you are dealing with the gem system, where the various gems buffer various stats, there is no way to have an system that automatically hooks the characters up with the ideal set-up, because “ideal” is relative in this case and depends heavily on what stats the player values most. One player might prefer better attack power, another might prefer more defense, a third might want a focus on healing, etc. However, I would still prefer the option of an auto-equip, and having a few choices for where the auto-equip puts its focus might be even better. Ideally you could just set this up once for each character, and be done with it. For instance, “Shulk = Focus: Attack” or something similar, and then every time that you use the auto-equip functionality, he is set up with gear that focuses on attack power. Some kind of player-defined character priority system wouldn’t be bad either, so your most important characters would automatically get the better gear. However auto-equip would end up implemented, I would really, really love to see this in the upcoming game.
 
Give us more control over our party in battles
I’m going to move away from the sidequests for a bit here (don’t worry, they will be back!) Xenoblade Chronicles has a pretty neat battle system, but there is definitely some room for improvement. The thing that stood out to me most as something that could use a change is the level of control that you have over the other characters in your party. It’s really rather limited. I understand that this may very well be an intended design choice, but I’m not sure that I agree with it.

The first thing I’d like to see is simply a way to switch between which of your party members you control in the heat of battle. Why not? I’d love to be able to get some sword action in with a fighter, switch to a healer when things get rough and take care of everyone, then switch over to a magic user and get some long range attacks in, etc. This kind of dynamic system is very exciting to me. It could even lead to a bit of strategy involving the placement of your characters upon the battlefield, if Monolith Soft wanted to take the battle system to a whole other level entirely.

Another thing that seems pretty important to me and was lacking in Xenoblade Chronicles is the ability to quickly change which monster your other characters are attacking. Often I would be trying to focus on one monster and my teammates would be off doing their own thing. I’m the leader here, I should have a way to tell them where to focus their energies! [EDIT: I have been informed that this does indeed exist, and somehow I managed to miss it. Oops.]

Finally, I would love if Xenoblade Chronicles 2 would draw a bit from Final Fantasy XII’s battle system (and maybe Final Fantasy XIII’s as well, but I haven’t played that one.) Don’t get me wrong, overall Xenoblade Chronicles is the superior game in my eyes, but Final Fantasy XII did do a few things better in the battle system. Final Fantasy XII had a pretty interesting algorithmic system set up where your characters would choose their actions based on certain priorities and variables. For example, a character might be set with attack as the priority, unless a party member’s health dips below 40%, and then healing becomes the priority. This is a simple example, and you could keep it simple if you pleased, but you could also take it deeper and set up large, complex move algorithms for each character. In my opinion, Xenoblade Chronicles 2 could benefit from such a system.


There will be large monsters in Xenoblade Chronicles 2, no doubt about that.
 
Make it clearer how gear affects more than just battles
This would perhaps be a minor gripe for some, but as it led to me spending a good hour or so trying to do something that I found out from a FAQ that I couldn’t actually do with my party’s current gear, it’s going to make my list. It also contains a very minor Xenoblade Chronicles spoiler (in the sense that it helps you understand how to do something the game itself never explains well), so if you are worried about that kind of thing, you might want to skip to the next item in the list.

At a certain point into Xenoblade Chronicles, while exploring Valak Mountain, to be precise, I stumbled upon what was obviously the route to a secret area. There is a long, skinny, and twisted path of ice that you can slide down, ending in a gap that it appears can be cleared with a well-timed leap to allow you to grasp onto the edge of a cliff on the other side and climb up. “Appears” is the key word here. I attempted to jump this gap a good 10-15 times, always coming up just short, before I decided to check out a FAQ to see if I was doing something wrong. It turned out that I was; the gap could only be cleared if I had equipped an item that made my characters move 10% faster, thus resulting in a greater velocity heading towards the jump. It seems pretty obvious written out like this, right?

Here is the thing though; nothing in the game up to this point suggested that you would ever have to equip a certain piece of gear to change your abilities in a way that will help you access new areas. It’s just not that kind of game (or so I thought), and this example is the only point in the game where I found anything like this. It’s my opinion that if a game will involve these kind of secrets, it should be made clear at some point that what you equip matters for more than just battles, but can actually affect what parts of the terrain you can access as well.

Still, I think this point of mine includes more than just the way it was, but also the way it could be. Why not work a bit more Metroid / Zelda type “obtain this item to gain access to new areas” progression into Xenoblade Chronicles 2, and have it be a known entity of the game? Monolith Soft played with it a tiny bit in Xenoblade Chronicles, but there is room for much more.
 
Add more variety to the levels of the monsters found in each environment
One of the coolest thing about Xenoblade Chronicles to me was that it didn’t feel like you were playing a game; it felt like you were exploring a living, breathing world. This effect was created in a whole variety of ways, and I’m not going to get into all of them right now, because that would basically turn this top 10 desired improvements list into paragraphs upon paragraphs of me praising the game. However, one specific thing that stood out as going a long ways towards achieving this effect was the fact that, in any given environment, you would find monsters that you could reasonably take on in battles, and other monsters that were beyond your current capabilities. I’m sure that Xenoblade Chronicles isn’t the only game that has ever done this, but it is the first one that I have personally played (as far as I can remember) that has. This may seem like a small thing, but it makes for a world that feels like it would exist whether you were there playing in it or not. Monsters aren’t built just to be fodder for your characters to slaughter, many of them will straight up destroy you if you try to take them on.

With that said, the game didn’t really push this idea as far as it could have. For the most part you run into two types of monsters in any given environment; those who are at a level that you can take on without significant trouble, and those who are at a level so far beyond your current one that you won’t stand a chance against them unless you leave and come back much, much later. And by much, much later I mean, essentially, when you are nearing the end of the game. But why should these be the only two options? Why not have a couple of monsters who are just a few levels higher than you might feel comfortable taking on, but whom can, with sound strategy, be defeated? Or monsters ten or twelve levels higher that you will be forced to avoid but, upon coming back to finish up some stray sidequests, you will notice that you can finally take a shot at? Having a whole range of levels for the monsters that you find in each environment could add to the game in both the quality of gameplay and the believability of the world.


There will also be guns. It’s basically an FPS now!
 
Make the paths to unlock the secret areas / bosses less convoluted
Ok I’m coming back to the sidequests again, and I can tell you right now, it won’t be the last time. One of the amazing things about Xenoblade Chronicles is the aforementioned 400+ sidequests. However, one of the frustrating things about Xenoblade Chronicles is that, unless you are going to spend something like 150+ hours on the game, you’re going to have to choose to complete some sidequests and ignore others. This is fair enough. But how do you determine which sidequests are the more worthwhile ones?

Many people that I have spoken with have finished Xenoblade Chronicles without ever knowing about the fact that it has a lot of secret areas hidden behind closed paths that include some pretty epic optional boss battles, among other things. This is pretty a pretty rad addition in my eyes. How can so many people be finishing the game without even knowing that this stuff exists though? Well, the way to unlock a lot of these secret areas is hidden within the mass of sidequests. Generally you have to complete a specific sidequest that chains into another, and that one into another, and on and on until eventually at some point you unlock the path. However, there is rarely any indication which, out of the many, many sidequests, is the first link in this chain. You can start to get a sense of which sidequests are the most likely candidates after awhile, but it is never totally clear.

I understand that the role of these areas is that they are “secrets”, so pointing the player directly to them would probably not make much sense. However, there has to be a better solution than mixing them into the larger pool of sidequests and requiring players to arbitrarily stumble upon them. Why not, upon the discovery of a secret area while exploring, at least drop some kind of hint as to which sidequest the player has to do next to start upon the path of unlocking the area?
 
Make the chain attack system more relevant
This is another tiny gripe of mine, but it bugged me enough to make my list. Early into Xenoblade Chronicles, you get introduced to the chain attack, which allows you to, after filling up your “party gauge” (which has 3 levels), attack a monster several times in a row utilizing your various party members. This can be a pretty devastating attack at times, especially if you have party members who can use break, topple, and daze successively to keep a monster down for a bit and let you throw more attacks on top of them. It was a great introduction to the battle system and I enjoyed using it a lot.

...at first. However, the party gauge is also used to revive downed characters, and in fact is the only way to revive downed characters (at least as far as I discovered over the course of my playthrough.) Now, if you don’t have enough of your party gauge filled to revive a character (up to the first level) and one of the party members that you aren’t directly controlling goes down, you can keep fighting and hope for the best. However, if your main character goes down, you’re done. Game over baby.

Did I mention that doing a chain attack clears the entire gauge? So essentially, if you do a chain attack, you are now stuck in a position where if your main character goes down, it’s over. In theory this could be an interesting risk / reward mechanic. However, the damage that you can do from a chain attack is rarely worth the risk of putting yourself in this position (as well as giving up three full revives.) I say rarely, but in truth it is closer to never. The way that the system is built, the chain attack becomes much too risky of a proposition to ever use reasonably.

The quick and dirty solution would be to simply separate the chain attack gauge from reviving. However, if Monolith Soft wants to keep the risk / reward that is involved, they can at least balance things a bit better. Have the chain attack take off only half of the gauge, or have the gauge refill more quickly or I dunno... something! Just find a way to make chain attacks more viable, because they’re fun and generally effective, but the way that things currently stand, they’re just not worth it.


Don’t forget this wicked dinosaur / dragon thing! *DROOLS*
 
Have the menus / map / etc. be easily accessible on the Wii U GamePad
I’m generally not the kind of person who gets overly excited about having a second screen just to handle maps and menus, but in the case of Xenoblade Chronicles 2, I think this would be the absolute best use of the Wii U GamePad. This isn’t to say that the developers should ignore any other potential uses for the GamePad, but I am expecting, nay, demanding simple, seamless execution of the menus and maps on the GamePad at the bare minimum.

I can’t be the only one who found myself constantly pausing the game just to check my map for the 100th time, or to recheck which strangely named monster I was supposed to be searching for this time around (oh, it was the Ammos Orluga, not the Azul Andos!) Furthermore, I would constantly be bringing up my quest log to see which quests that I could be working on in whatever environment that I found myself in. Xenoblade Chronicles is an excellent game, but it is an excellent game with a ton of menus, and I often found myself spending way too much time inside of the menu system.

You know what would be the best? If there was a scalable map built into the GamePad, and you could instantly warp to whatever landmark you want to just by clicking on the landmark on the map. Some kind of prioritization for the quests in that environment which automatically brings up a few of your most relevant quests on another section of the GamePad could also be pretty neat, and go a long way towards streamlining the execution of the sidequests. This would be topped off with clean, instant menu navigation on the touch pad for equipping, checking character relationships, crafting gems, and more.
 
Make it easier to find the items / monsters / NPCs that you need to find
The sidequest functionality in Xenoblade Chronicles is a kind of mixed bag to me. In some ways, it is very progressive and helps to manage the sidequests in an efficient manner that few RPGs can attest to. In other ways, it is just plain lacking.

One serious complaint of mine is how difficult it is to find the items that you need sometimes. In general you can obtain the items to complete most of the sidequests in two ways; either by picking up “collectables” (the glowing orbs), or by defeating monsters to get “materials”. Fair enough. However, Xenoblade Chronicles will often give you a list of things you need to complete your quest (say, 3 bitter kiwi, 2 quirky livers, etc.) without giving you much of an idea of where to find this stuff. Oh sure, it will tell you the environment that this stuff is located in, but if you have played Xenoblade Chronicles you know these environments are freaking huge. It can take a long time just to walk from one end of an environment to the other, let alone explore every little nook and cranny.

Now, some people claim that the collectables for each environment are scattered randomly within, such that as long as you are in the correct environment you can just run around picking up the orbs anywhere and eventually find what you need without having to locate it in a specific place. I’m not sure that I believe this. There were times that I spent close to an hour running around trying to find a collectable, only to give up, look it up in a FAQ, and be pointed to a very specific location, where I would instantly have more success. Anecdotal evidence, to be sure, but it feels like reality to me.

When it comes to the materials, you will often be given a specific monster name to look for within an environment. That makes it easy, right? Well, not really. Many monsters are only located in specific areas within the environment, and only during specific times of the day, and sometimes even appear only during specific weather. So even when you have a sense of which monster you are looking for, it’s not always that easy to find them. But you will not always have a sense of which monster you are looking for, at least not visually, because monsters are often named things like “Lograt Kromar” or “Sestago Lexos”, and unless you have an awesome memory, telling you to seek those monsters out will mean little to you.

Furthermore, although some sidequests automatically reward you upon completion without requiring you to go back and talk to the NPCs who gave them to you, others do not. This is understandable to some degree, as these sidequests usually contain additional requests / etc. which would not make much sense if they were done remotely. However, you meet a lot of NPCs who give out sidequests in this game, so with only a name to go on, it is easy to forget where and when you originally stumbled upon any given NPC, and it can be a bit frustrating trying to track them down again. The game will give you a general location, but not much else.

Of course, to get past all of the above quickly, you can just go check a FAQ. Which I ended up doing many times after roaming around like a headless chicken for a bit. But FAQs make me feel dirty. I want to feel like I’m playing the game on my own!

My suggestion is pretty simple. Every item, monster, and NPC that you ever encounter should be logged somewhere in a more precise manner, to cut down on a lot of the random running around. And anything / anyone that you have not encountered yet should come with at least a semi-specific hint as to where it / they may be found. Furthermore, upon completion of a quest that requires you to speak to an NPC again, why not give you the option to immediately warp to the place / time of day where you originally met them?


Is that Shulk? It sure looks like him...
 
And that’s my top 10 list! I hope that I didn’t come off as overly negative. As I said, Xenoblade Chronicles is now one of my all-time favorite games, and I only criticize it because I love it so much, and want the sequel to be even better. But these are just suggestions. Rest assured, whether Xenoblade Chronicles 2 includes these improvements or not, I’ll be right in line for my copy. I cannot freaking wait. Actually, I lied, I can wait. Getting through Xenoblade Chronicles has been rewarding, yet exhausting in some ways, and I think that I will need a bit of a break once I finish it...

What do you think? Are these good ideas? Bad ideas? Is there something that I missed? Let me know!

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#11 Reyn Shulk love affair
02/23/14, 01:09   
I just straight up want to switch between characters on the fly in combat. Also let us input all of our commands and not just 3.
02/23/14, 05:33   
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