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NW Epic Center: Chrono Trigger: FINAL WEEK
 
* * * * * Chrono Trigger - Week 5 * * * * *

(Plain English: Scroll down to the bottom of the "OP" if you're lagging behind for previous weeks)


TABLE OF CONTENTS

Prologue:
i Okami Club
ii Fire Emblem Club

Epic Center:
01 Ogre Battle
24 Secret of Mana
39 Phantasy Star IV (cont'd)
67 Earthbound (cont'd)
99 Breath of Fire II (cont'd)
110 Paper Mario (cont'd)
123 Golden Sun (cont'd)
136 Chrono Trigger

(ALL VINTAGE EC GAMES ARE CONTINUED IN THEIR OFFICIAL DISCUSSION THREADS!)

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Hello, true believers! Welcome to Negative World's newest RPG-centric Club Hub, springing off the heels of the Fire Emblem Club. Way back when, Nintendo Power introduced a monthly walkthrough / in depth Role Play Game section (right around the beefiest SNES RPG era), but since they aren't around anymore to use it, Negative World will bring it out of the ashes, dust it off, and roll with it (two things of note: #1, this is not in reaction to Nintendo Force Magazine at all -- I know that because I thought of it in the shower this morning, so THERE; and #2, I just looked up "Epic Center RPG" on Yahoo, and there is apparently another RPG-based site that has that, ugh. I guess we're looking at a "Ghostbusters" / "Real Ghostbusters" thing now... Whatever..).

For anyone who grew playing SNES RPGs, and were a fan of them, they surely resonated to the point where they still hold office as some of your favorite games of your entire videogame life, systems, generations, and decades later. The NW Epic Center (run primarily by myself, with the aid of some special friends occasionally) will help to expose some of those games that didn't quite get the recognition they deserved, and also to relive some of the greatest games EVER as we play through them again -- together -- and open up a whole new dialogue on these lost treasures.


Next up..



Chrono Trigger is held by many (myself included) as The Greatest RPG of All Time, pun not intended. It is a benchmark title in the genre, and even after 20 years the game is discussed daily and held in high regard, even in the face of juiced-up, HD "masterpieces." Is simpler sometimes better? Sure, but we're not talking "Dragon Warrior" simple here; we're talking 16-bit perfection at its finest. I'm personally a bit worried about pursuing this game once more; it's been a long time since my last jog through it, and I'm afraid I might have the rosiest pair of glasses that any shot of nostalgia could ever produce. We find out later this month, for better or for worse. (C'mon, it's gonna be fine -- we're talking Chrono Trigger here!! THE BEST, JERRY, THE BEST!!)

Sunday, August 30th marks the start of Week 1 (if you prefer to start your own quest AFTER Sunday, like Monday, or Tuesday, or Wednesday, thats fine!). Golden Sun ran 6 Weeks. GameDadGrant will be our DUNGEON MASTER for this one, and we figure the playthrough to run about the same length. Less than two months. I'm told the total quest should last you between 20 and 30 hours.


See ya soon!!


CHRONO TRIGGER

Dungeon Master: GameDadGrant

You Did It! Chrono Trigger Complete:
VofEscaflowne
Scrawnton
Mop it up
Ludist210



Week 4 Complete:
GameDadGrant
mrbiggsly
DapperDave

Week 3 Complete:
Mr_Mustache (and Mrs_Mustache!)

Week 2 Complete:
Smerd
Dark weres
warerare
sirmastersephiroth

Week 1 Complete:
Anand

Triggermen:
HammerLord
Koovaps

Week 1
Week 2
Week 3
Week 4
Week 5

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Posted: 12/22/12, 00:24:09  - Edited by 
 on: 10/31/15, 03:51:49
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@Mr_Mustache

That's a whole lotta Ogre Battle! I've been dry on my playing lately, but hope to get back in tonight.
Posted: 02/28/13, 02:35:24
WEEK 8

-Scene 23: The End Nears: City of Xanadu - Hidden Cities / Temples: 4 - Hidden Treasure: 10
-Scene 24: Ogre Battle: Zeteginea - Hidden Cities / Temples: 5 - Treasure: 2
-Scene 25: The Black God: Temple Shalina - Hidden Cities / Temples: 5 - Treasure: 2


General Tips and things to remember:
-You still need help? Its the last week! Good luck!
-Some of these battles will be..nasty. Might be time to break out some SUPERGROUPS.
-Thanks for playing! I'll always remember your devotion..


Spoilers / handholding, of course..
Tips for Scene 23: Xanadu: More snow, and I hope you've got some solid Snow Units because this final week has a LOT of it. Remember that your Fire Weapons/Dragons/Attackers will do well, too. Light 'em up! Quite the twist here for us; because we're so deep in the Empire's territory, they are VERY much into their cause, and there is a good chance that you'll be LOSING Reputation when Liberating cities. Oh no! (Zero was complaining about the game not offering many twists, and here we are at a stage that he'll NEVER see. What do you do? Without cities, you'll be BLEEDING money endlessly..) Hidden stuff (which you apparently CAN Liberate without a drop in Reputation); cities and temples are in the second section of the grass next to the water, left of the end of the Y river tributary above the grass sections, Temple is on the corner of the landmass NW of San Bisen, and another City NE of San Bisen and NW of Quaalash. Treasure, 5 of them in the southern mountain clump. Wow! The rest are SE of Ubelbahna and SW of the Temple there, E of Patos Demina, far N of Pilles Dol, NW of Loudan where that road is..by itself, and NW of the Enemy base on the island. After you figure out what you want to do with the rest of this stage (and those cities full of hate), use Rauny for the Boss encounter. Family Feud!
Tips for Scene 24: Zeteginea: Man, intense stuff this stage. Some call this..the hardest stage in the game. Remember that dude Gares? He's apparently been CLONING himself, and unleashing them in the battefield! What is this, Boys of Brazil!? In any event, you can Liberate the Temple hidden in the mountains to the far NE. That'll stop those in a hurry, but you'll have a fight on your hands along the way! Tough stage. Other hidden stuff; 3 cities on the Western landmass near the edge of the screen, and one on the island group to the south. They're all pretty close, wow! Treasure is E of Dalna, and E of Shibulg. When you're ready to take on the Boss...here she is, THE BLACK QUEEN. The game is named after her, so you can expect a wild battle. World card STRONGLY suggested, as she has 5(!!!!!) Hit-All attacks; you can use your Opinion Leader or Debonair for extra spicy dialogue! What to do, what to do.. Aftewards, return to Mislata for a Folio (exchange it on Fort Shulamana for a Fullmoon Stone..or sell it for 50K), El'Kedah for a Sentoul Demon (which you can exchange in Diaspola? for a Dragos/Staff), and perhaps more importantly, this is your final stop before the last stage. Stock up on everything, and don't be afraid to tap into those Joker cards. You'll probably be going through Tarots like nobody's business. Eeek! So here we go...

Tips for Scene 25: Temple Shalina; This stage has an ENDLESS supply of bad guys, so keep moving! While you're doing that, I'll tell you about this stuff: hidden Temple SW of Bol' Ey, treasure on the mountain chain island next to that (between the last mountain and "2" and "3"), from there extending SW, on the way to the islands with grass on them, you'll most likely run over some other treasure on one of the larger islands there (it may or may not have a tree on it..). On the island that is mostly snow with just a touch of grass, there are THREE cities there, and a Temple S of that, on the middle island. Everything else is before your eyes! Get a free Crown in Pillary, Low Rep in Gyulpyol will get you a BLOOD, Elsmiya will give you either a CHA POT. or a PROMOTE depending on how they like you. Once you've dug through everyone and plowed through a pile of Tarots and made it to the Boss castle, draw a deep breath. Send in Aisha or Debonair to deal with the Boss, and work through that. Yeah, you did it-- Oh, theres another Boss! Rashidi himself has shown is ugly mug, and a LOT of people have a bone to pick with him. Your Lord, Tristan, Yushis, and Saradin all want to mess this dude up! Yeah, you beat him!!-- wait..holy S. A 3rd guy...and..oh my gosh. What the heck is this thing?! The lower..head is Fire based, and the upper head is Cold based. Align your guys appropriately and choose the correct weapons. You can't hit the main body directly with these guys around, so take them out or go big on Hit-All / Indirect attacks. Man, what a battle. Don't be shy about using cards here, as this is it. Remember to keep your Opinion Leader's numbers how they want to be as your END GAME is determined by the final numbers! When the dust settles (and we hope its soon), you'll be the master of the game, and Ogre Battle will be behind you. This thing seems anti-climatic, I don't know what else to say. Curses!


That'll do it for Ogre Battle! Thanks for playing! Up next?:
SECRET OF MANA!We'll start NEXT Sunday, March 10th! Sign up now (or soon) and tell your friends!
Posted: 02/28/13, 03:50:36
Ooooooooooooooooh, yeah, baby!

I now have ALL of the special items required for the best ending, my Rep is off the charts, my Cha is 100, my Ali is up there..now all I gotta do is slaughter the bad guys on the final three stages.

But its a tough road to hoe. Eeek!
Posted: 03/01/13, 10:47:39
Stache Family has all of the necessary Special Items to achieve the best ending, now all we have to do is beat the final 2 (and 3) stages. Huzzah!
Posted: 03/02/13, 12:53:41
On the last stage now.. (x2)
Posted: 03/04/13, 01:05:46
Don't think i'll be able to start Secret of Mana for a while. Saving up to get a picture with William Shatner when he comes to Oz Comic Con and need to pay off Paper Mario and Bioshock Infinite.
Posted: 03/04/13, 01:51:38
Just finished Ogre Battle; best Tarot ending, perfect Chaos Frame of 100, and a conquest of 236 days.

I must've been SO prepared for the end, because I was RUNNING from boss battles as to not advance the stage. That surely says something when you don't even need ot use Tarots at all, and your guys are ruining dudes in like 2 turns. Gross.


I'll be shifting the Ogre Battle portion over to the Ogre Battle Game Discussion thread (which will exist in about 2 minutes).


Woo hoo!
Posted: 03/04/13, 07:48:22
I would just request that the first post be made smaller, and contain little more than the links to the beginnings of each week of discussion. Scrolling past that wall of text to see what the next person said is a little inconvenient.

Or perhaps, is there a setting that lets you load all the posts on one page?

But Yeah, sign me up for Secret of Mana
Posted: 03/04/13, 18:47:44  - Edited by 
 on: 03/04/13, 18:48:41
One of my fav games ever. I'm so up for this!
Posted: 03/04/13, 20:12:20
@Dark Weres

Hmm. I was going to do it exactly like Ogre Battle, with the links to the WEEK being below the SECRET OF MANA deal. I COULD put the newest link at the tippy top of the "OP," would that help?

@Cube191

Welcome!


--Oh, and let me know if you guys want a different "icon" next to your name (if you're familiar with the game, your favorite non-Boss enemy will suffice). I just pick one that "feels right" to me, but if you don't like it I'll certainly change it, haha!
Posted: 03/04/13, 20:45:18
Why don't you just start a new thread for Secret of Mana?
Posted: 03/04/13, 20:48:11
@PogueSquadron

It's the Epic Center, mannnn! All the RPG Club crap that I'm running will be in here. Less threads with my name on them the better..

--You're gonna be good for this, yes?
Posted: 03/04/13, 20:49:35
I'm not sure. I'd like to sign up but it might prove difficult with my upcoming schedule and I don't want to sign up unless I can finish the game.
Posted: 03/04/13, 23:02:15
@PogueSquadron

*sigh of sighs* You are aware we're doing this now for the benefit of you and Fink, right?


The show must go on!


Posted: 03/04/13, 23:20:40
It doesn't matter when you do it - I'm always going to be busy. I was planning on it, but if I get really busy and can't finish then I just don't want it to be a huge deal.

If it helps, I'm fluent enough with this game to engage in a conversation on it no matter what point anyone is at, should I wind up getting really busy. (For some perspective, I worked 45 hours between my two jobs this week, plus the 30 some odd illustrations I had to do by today....just haven't had much time to even play the games I already have)
Posted: 03/04/13, 23:24:20  - Edited by 
 on: 03/04/13, 23:26:50
Silktail is fine, thanks! So cute...so deadly...
Posted: 03/04/13, 23:56:30
I'm all about some Secret of Mana.
Posted: 03/05/13, 00:09:10
Count me in officially! I'll make it work. I just keep worrying my next two weeks will be like my last two weeks but I'll figure it out...somehow.
Posted: 03/05/13, 00:41:21
We know I'm in eh? Kinda have to be having received this highly anticipated game for Secret Santa...

Count me in.
Posted: 03/05/13, 01:06:52
Oh man, if I have time to attempt this between Fire Emblem and League of Legends (I hate my friend for getting me to try it...) I would love to jump in on this. I tried playing it on the SNES 7 or 8 years ago only to have my used copy of the game glitch out, repeatedly, in the 5th or 6th dungeon. Right after beating it but before ending the story component. With three players. I bought it on the Wii when it came out but have never even loaded the title screen.

I'd probably have to play catch up during spring break or something.
Posted: 03/05/13, 01:09:04
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