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NW Epic Center: Chrono Trigger: FINAL WEEK
* * * * * Chrono Trigger - Week 5 * * * * *

(Plain English: Scroll down to the bottom of the "OP" if you're lagging behind for previous weeks)


i Okami Club
ii Fire Emblem Club

Epic Center:
01 Ogre Battle
24 Secret of Mana
39 Phantasy Star IV (cont'd)
67 Earthbound (cont'd)
99 Breath of Fire II (cont'd)
110 Paper Mario (cont'd)
123 Golden Sun (cont'd)
136 Chrono Trigger


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Hello, true believers! Welcome to Negative World's newest RPG-centric Club Hub, springing off the heels of the Fire Emblem Club. Way back when, Nintendo Power introduced a monthly walkthrough / in depth Role Play Game section (right around the beefiest SNES RPG era), but since they aren't around anymore to use it, Negative World will bring it out of the ashes, dust it off, and roll with it (two things of note: #1, this is not in reaction to Nintendo Force Magazine at all -- I know that because I thought of it in the shower this morning, so THERE; and #2, I just looked up "Epic Center RPG" on Yahoo, and there is apparently another RPG-based site that has that, ugh. I guess we're looking at a "Ghostbusters" / "Real Ghostbusters" thing now... Whatever..).

For anyone who grew playing SNES RPGs, and were a fan of them, they surely resonated to the point where they still hold office as some of your favorite games of your entire videogame life, systems, generations, and decades later. The NW Epic Center (run primarily by myself, with the aid of some special friends occasionally) will help to expose some of those games that didn't quite get the recognition they deserved, and also to relive some of the greatest games EVER as we play through them again -- together -- and open up a whole new dialogue on these lost treasures.

Next up..

Chrono Trigger is held by many (myself included) as The Greatest RPG of All Time, pun not intended. It is a benchmark title in the genre, and even after 20 years the game is discussed daily and held in high regard, even in the face of juiced-up, HD "masterpieces." Is simpler sometimes better? Sure, but we're not talking "Dragon Warrior" simple here; we're talking 16-bit perfection at its finest. I'm personally a bit worried about pursuing this game once more; it's been a long time since my last jog through it, and I'm afraid I might have the rosiest pair of glasses that any shot of nostalgia could ever produce. We find out later this month, for better or for worse. (C'mon, it's gonna be fine -- we're talking Chrono Trigger here!! THE BEST, JERRY, THE BEST!!)

Sunday, August 30th marks the start of Week 1 (if you prefer to start your own quest AFTER Sunday, like Monday, or Tuesday, or Wednesday, thats fine!). Golden Sun ran 6 Weeks. GameDadGrant will be our DUNGEON MASTER for this one, and we figure the playthrough to run about the same length. Less than two months. I'm told the total quest should last you between 20 and 30 hours.

See ya soon!!


Dungeon Master: GameDadGrant

You Did It! Chrono Trigger Complete:
Mop it up

Week 4 Complete:

Week 3 Complete:
Mr_Mustache (and Mrs_Mustache!)

Week 2 Complete:
Dark weres

Week 1 Complete:


Week 1
Week 2
Week 3
Week 4
Week 5


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Posted: 12/22/12, 00:24:09  - Edited by 
 on: 10/31/15, 03:51:49
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I've already played it which I'm not sure would really make it exciting to follow through with you guys. I basically know the game inside out from having played it countless times on the SNES plus I own it on the DS as well. We'll see, maybe I'll join in. I just want to clear out a few games I've been meaning to play and am currently going through so adding a JRPG to the mix would just push everything back even more.
Posted: 08/30/15, 05:42:08
Well, I'm starting up the DS cartridge on my 2DS as I lay in bed, cause why not. And I've never finished the game before, so most of this will be new to me. My save file says I only ever got 5 hours and change in when the DS game came out, so I'll cruise past that in week 2.
Posted: 08/30/15, 08:31:30
"This is Leene's Bell. People say that whoever hears the Bell ring will lead interesting and happy lives."

And so it begins. Crono is awoken by the sound of the bell (and his mother's voice!). Let us dive into an amazing adventure.


We'll start off with week 1 being fairly simple. This is the first time I've DM'd anything, so bear with me. Let me know if the pace is too much, or too little. Here we go!

Let's begin with:

Main Objectives
1.) Get Crono to the Millennial Fair.
2.) Meet Marle
3.) View Lucca's unveiling of her newest invention.
4.) Find Marle
5.) Meet Frog
6.) Rescue the Queen
7.) Return to 1000A.D.

Side objectives:
a.) Visit the Mayor's Manor. Get the Tonic from the Treasure Chest, and talk to the old man on the upper floor for some extra $$$.
b.) Earn enough money to buy the Lode (Silver) Sword from Melchior at the Millennial Fair before meeting Marle.
c.) Win the Crono Doll from Norstein Bekkler’s Lab at the Millennial Fair before viewing Lucca's invention.

Things are fairly straight-forward in the beginning, so I feel like there shouldn't be too much hand-holding from the DM (er, me). Hopefully the week's goals are easy enough, but lengthy enough to take up a week's time.

Enjoy, and as always, suggestions, questions, concerns and advice are most welcome. Cheers!
Posted: 08/30/15, 16:53:32  - Edited by 
 on: 08/30/15, 17:52:04
Decided to join in and already got the Crono doll. Getting that Silver Sword will take a bit though!
Posted: 08/30/15, 17:48:53

Welcome! And congrats on grabbing the doll already. Makes things easier later on....

Getting the sword from Melchior isn't as time consuming as it first seems. Just beat up Gato over and over.
Posted: 08/30/15, 19:35:13

Which is time consuming! But either way, I got the sword.
Posted: 08/30/15, 19:44:21
I still had 1500 points in my wii-shop account so I just downloaded it.

As a personal objective, I'm going to try to do everything that will prove my guilt at the trial
Posted: 08/30/15, 19:55:11
Well that was quick enough... done with this week's progress
Posted: 08/30/15, 20:12:37
mrbiggsly said:
As a personal objective, I'm going to try to do everything that will prove my guilt at the trial

Posted: 08/30/15, 22:04:57
Week one done - Who here has never played the game before? We may have to watch for spoilers...

It's never too late to join in people- this game is timeless....
Posted: 08/30/15, 22:14:29
I've played up until the ocean palace before but no further. I know nothing of the story so if we could keep major spoilers hidden that would be fantastic
Posted: 08/30/15, 23:02:43
Yup, a newbie here too. Only ever made it a couple hours in, so spoiler tags are good. Got about an hour in so far, but it was before GDG posted objectives. I may restart so I can hit the side objectives.
Posted: 08/31/15, 00:19:45
Ok sounds like a plan, but GDG will make it Law for this Chrono Trigger play through - so say the gaming Gods.
Posted: 08/31/15, 01:22:34
Week 1 done 3 hour 30 minutes in (2 hours 30 minutes in the fair).

And sorry for the spoiler... I figured most of what happens in this game reached "Snape kills Dumbledore" level but I'll be more careful from here on out
Posted: 08/31/15, 05:28:24
GameDadGrant said:

b.) Earn enough money to buy the Lode (Silver) Sword from Melchior at the Millennial Fair before meeting Marle.

I always took lode to mean "Magnetic Iron" or lodestone. Or was it originally silver in Japanese, and just translated as lode?

IIRC you can run off into the forest instead of heading to the fair, if you want to beat up on things without waiting for them to get out of counterattack range first.
Posted: 08/31/15, 15:41:24  - Edited by 
 on: 08/31/15, 15:43:07
Wow, you guys are on top of this! Which is good. Yeah, Week 1 is over rather quickly. But I didn't want to get *too* far into the game before moving further in. Looking forward to Week 2!

Also, I'll try to Spoiler-Tag stuff. I'll try to post the objectives as non-spoilery as possible.

And yeah @Dark Weres, you can earn a good amount of XP and $$$ by going to the forest to grind. It kinda makes Crono over-powered for the first bit of the game...but that's not necessarily a bad thing!

Also, I don't know why it was originally called a "Lode Sword" in the SNES game. But they translated it to Silver Sword for the DS remake. Why? Because reasons.
Posted: 08/31/15, 17:28:22
Glad to see everyone is off to a good start! (See, Grant, I told you it would work!)


I think "Lode" is seen in a few other RPGs though. I'm pretty sure this isn't the first time I've seen it attached to an NES / SNES weapon..
Posted: 08/31/15, 20:21:09
GameDadGrant said:

And yeah @Dark Weres, you can earn a good amount of XP and $$$ by going to the forest to grind. It kinda makes Crono over-powered for the first bit of the game...but that's not necessarily a bad thing!

If you wanna talk about overpowered, I'm playing this on a New Game + to try and get a particular ending I always seem to miss, before resuming and completing the game normally with everyone else.

Watching some of my friends play through old games like this, and seeing them "know everything", and by that I mean completely forget to talk to conspicuous NPC #3 who opens the way forward, in every single scene, and getting stuck for several hours wondering what to do, makes me happy to be forgetful. I tend to talk to everyone in these old games, just in case one of them says something interesting/important, even if I'm replaying the game and have practically memorized what they say, just in case I forgot something or remembered it wrong. It probably also helps that I'm a fast reader, so I don't bore myself in talking to everyone. It probably also-also helps that I try to make my games last as long as possible, delaying the ending and squeezing as much time out of them while I play as possible, too.

Are you going to be branching the play for the various ways people can get those endings? Or are you just going to go for one of the ones you're expected to get on your first play?

Anyways, week 1 complete for me. Took a bit longer than I expected due to Norstein Bekkler's minigames being tougher than I remember, and because I wanted to try and win each of them at least once. Maybe once more once I get back. I enjoy the 80-point minigame quite a lot.

Nethack has a funny little item they refer to as a lodestone. It appears as a featureless gray rock when unidentified. If you pick it up, it curses itself (meaning you can't drop or throw it without uncursing it first somehow), and adds 500 weight to your inventory, leading to a wealth of complications. I thought it was a clever idea on the creators' part to abuse that name. A lodestone can be used as a valuable sling projectile if you have a reliable method of uncursing it while it's in your possession. It won't re-curse itself until you pick it up from the ground again.
Posted: 09/01/15, 10:24:03
I will be getting on this later today. I am finding it really hard to halt progress on Bowser's Inside Story, I am at about 14 hours in.
Posted: 09/01/15, 11:27:19
@Dark Weres

I've never played on New Game +, but I'm pretty sure I've got a NG+ file thats waiting for me on my cartridge. What do we need to do?
Posted: 09/01/15, 15:41:48
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