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Do you take video game journalism and reviews seriously anymore? [roundtable]
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I hate coming in late to threads but I haven't taken video game "journalism" seriously in a long long time.
One recent example is the MOH:WF debacle. I played the beta, and while it DID seem pretty safe and generic, I would never ever say it was worth the ridiculously low scores its getting, especially with all the other similar games out there that don't get scores like that.
I always thought Halo was an overrated as fuck series, and I think it should have been getting 7's and 8's tops, but noooooooo it was getting 9's and 10's all along. And now finally, a Halo game that truly looks good, not by that overrated 1 trick pony studio comes along, and it barely receives higher scores even though it seems everyone knows it's better than all the other games before it. So my point is, since those fucking morons have been blowing their high score loads on the earlier Halo games, it appears that this new one isn't much better (based on scores), even though it is. Know what I'm saying?
Back to MOH:WF, I played it and it seemed okay. Then I saw the scores and they were in the 4's and 5's, and I instantly called bullshit on that. The game is not that bad, not many are. It seems like a perfectly competent game, and it's getting totally trashed, and I don't even know why.
I've been following this guy on Youtube lately called Hip Hop Gamer. He's not the BEST source in the world, and he himself is known for out of whack opinions and hyperbole, but his heart is in the right place. Now this video itself he kinda makes himself look like a fool, but his core point is still right. He calls out IGN and other reviews with bullshit standards, hypocrisy, etc. It's a good watch. He does this series called "Shots Fired" where he critiques the industry for excessive negativity and other such things. This video focuses on MOH and how reviewers trash it, yet give high scores to other similar games.
Edit: And if you don't like the way he talks just ignore it, but listen to his actual points.
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carlosrox said: Back to MOH:WF, I played it and it seemed okay. Then I saw the scores and they were in the 4's and 5's, and I instantly called bullshit on that. The game is not that bad, not many are. It seems like a perfectly competent game, and it's getting totally trashed, and I don't even know why.
It's getting trashed because it's garbage. It's a "me-too" CoD clone, it's using Frostbite but not taking advantage of it for anything but visuals. So it's less polished and "exciting" than Call of Duty, and it's on a much smaller scale than Battlefield. It's a worthless, unfun bastard child of a game. The single player is an absolute joke of hand-holding trash and the multiplayer's sole novel idea (fireteams) gets old after a couple hours of gameplay and the rest of the multiplayer plays it as safe as they get. There's no innovation, imagination, NOTHING in the game. It's exactly the kind of game we DON'T NEED ANY MORE OF. I'm GLAD it's getting panned universally, maybe it'll signal CoD clones to stop and die already, because it's an overfull genre that's big on spectacle but no ideas. No one I know who bought the game is still playing multiplayer, and the game's not even 3 weeks old! The single player is so lame and hand-holdy that it's practically nothing but triggers. If it asks you to shoot two different targets, you have to shoot the one it SAYS, if you try to shoot the other one first, that target is magically INVINCIBLE. That's how the ENTIRE campaign goes. So where does the value come from? Should it get points because you can play it? The game is worse than bad; it's BORING, which in video games is a far bigger crime than bugs or bad voice acting or any of that. Also, not taking games journalism seriously because you personally disagree with review scores is not only the most idiotic and childish thing I've read all day, but the most nonsensical. |
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Yes and no. And that is a bit of a problem, really. Many times I feel like what was shown and said during the reviews just wasn't everything that was needed to be mentioned and analysed. That making me watch/read 3+ reviews so I can pick up the missing pieces, balance the circumstances and context that the elements analysed were in and finally make up my own thoughts about the game, leading me to whether think it's worthy of my money or not.
Though I do give some reviewers more trust than others, the small and independent are the ones I rely on the most. Those being either obscure youtubers or nice people from online gaming communities, that including Negative World.
As said above, I tend to watch more than one review of a specific game, but the matters are not only for knowledge. I really like to sit and watch/read reviews, for some reason. Specially for games that I know and have already played, that way being 100% sure of it's pros and cons and already having a formed opinion about it. I find taking my time to evaluate a review and seeing a worthy one to be a very satisfying experience. Also, it's a nice way to kill 5-10 minutes. |
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@Xbob42Just because it's linear doesn't mean it's bad. I loved Black Ops even though it was about as hand holdy as a game can get. And that goes for everyone else saying MOH:WF is a piece of shit when they've given great reviews to every COD that's released. And are you saying this based on your own experiences? Did you play the beta? Whole thing? Or are you taking the word of what others have said? I only played the beta, and funny enough, I admit the game BROKE on me (when I started controlling the bot in the first real mission, I couldn't progress, I was stuck in a void), even then I wouldn't expect the game to be worthy of a 4 and a 5. And again, I'm not disagreeing it might not be uninspired, but I personally doubt it's 4 bad. C'mon. 4 bad is what I'd give for half assed Wii efforts and shovelware. This game obviously isn't that. So are they rating this game harsher just cuz "it's time to move on"? Cuz I got news for you, it was time to move on years ago. And HHG makes some good points how IGN claimed something about this game that EA chose to advertise, and they turn around and give the game a 4. Ironic though, maybe EA deserves it cuz they did the same thing to Nintendo, but the point still stands. This whole bullshit only makes me want to try the game more, cuz I don't trust gaming journalists a lot of the time. These are probably the same people who say Other M is shit yet champion Halo and Bungie as "world class". "Also, not taking games journalism seriously because you personally disagree with review scores is not only the most idiotic and childish thing I've read all day, but the most nonsensical." Not sure I said that was the only reason, or if I even said that, but if I don't take their word seriously, why would I pay attention to them? What's wrong with that? I don't need to take them seriously. I trust my opinon above all others. I read reviews and watch videos as a mere guideline. I can usually trust my instinct, I don't need to fap to IGN or Giantbomb or whoever the fuck's opinion of Other M or Halo 4 or HL2. So because a games journalist says Halo 1 is the best FPS game of all time I need to take that opinion seriously? Fuck no, that opinion is a joke to me. |
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@Oldmanwinter Novelty wearing off more and more and just straight up copycat games mean lower and lower scores. Let me put it into another perspective: Madden typically (not always) improves very slightly over last year's game. Does that mean Madden should get continually higher scores? No, standards are moving bars. A game is measured for its time. Some games transcend their time and are always amazingly good. Most don't and aren't. There's lots of CoD clones. MoH does nothing, nothing special to justify its existence. It is the most blatant "me too" game I have seen in my entire life, barring that borderline parody "Modern Combat" series of iOS games made by what I assume are Chinese cloners. You liking the campaign more than MW3 is personal preference. Most would say MW3 was the weakest in the "post-MW" series of Call of Duty, but it did what they always do: Brought over-the-top (WAY over-the-top, not kind of Hollywood action over-the-top, just completely stupid shit) action with a short campaign, 60FPS and a multiplayer that addicts people, which is the main draw. I'm not defending MW, mind you, I think the entire "genre" of Modern Military Shooters is a bunch of hoo-rah macho bullshit borderline parodying what it set out to do in the first place. It's no longer fun, interesting or subtle to me. It has become as last several gen's World War 2 shooters. Nauseating. Had MOH: Warfighter been released 5 years ago, it would've been met with fairly critical success. I doubt it'd be a blockbuster, but its nice visuals would have set it apart from CoD, and Battlefield wouldn't have been out. That it gets low scores now is not a sign of bias or "unfairness," times simply changed. It no longer holds any sway. I could go around in circles talking to myself here for hours, so I'll shut up now. |
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