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Top 5 titles on each of the systems that you've owned? [roundtable]
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@AnandIt's brutal to whittle down the DS to just 5, I had to leave off so many games that I truly loved, like Yoshi's, Ghost Trick, Layton, Ninja Gaiden Dragon Sword, GTA Chinatown Wars, Star Wars ROTS, Ouendan, Mario Kart DS, Advance Wars Dual Strike, I could on and on! |
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@GuillaumeAh yes, the Gameboy Final Fantasy games were so good! My personal favorite was Final Fantasy Legend III (all that time travel stuff is neat!) but both Legend II and Adventure were classics. The first one was a bit hokey, though. At least IMO. I can't remember exactly why, but I remember when I was younger I was put off by it for some reason. Your GBA, DS and 3DS lists are pretty bare...do you not own many (physical) games for those systems? |
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You can do it however you wanna do it. I was thinking "only games that you're passionate about, though". But, yeah, personal preference would definitely trump 'objective' quality. @deathly_hallowsYou didn't rent back in the day? I used to rent NES games by the fistful! Granted, that was only half a game at a time, but still! Everyone seems to universally agree that SNES was the REAL hotness but I. The SNES felt kind of old hat to me. Sure, it had some bonafide super-duper classics, but it really lacked the fertile experimentation and sheer quantity of the NES library for me. The NES library was like, "Holy shit, have you played this game?" and the SNES library was all, "Hey, this is a prettier version of that NES game that blew me away!" My lack of RPGosity probably figures into that opinion, though. GBA -> DS was a similar progression for me. It was a system with TONS of very good to great games, but not nearly as many DS games blew my socks off as...did... GBA games. That sentence was tortuous. |
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@AnandA valid argument, although I'd argue that the SNES's sequels were...well, REALLY good. I mean, honestly, they were so good that the argument can be made that most of them have yet to be topped 15-20 years later. In other words, a lot will tell you that Super Mario World, A Link to the Past, Super Metroid, Super Contra, Super Castlevania, Turtles in Time, Final Fantasy III, Donkey Kong Country (2), Kirby Super Star, and even Super Mario Kart are the best in their series. That's pretty amazing if you think about it--that companies were able to get these games so right on their first (16-bit) go-around. And that's not even including the more unique franchises/experiences such as Mario Paint, EarthBound, Chrono Trigger, Secret of Mana/Evermore, Lufia II (what happened to this series?), Soul Blazer/Illusion of Gaia, Earthworm Jim and Yoshi's Island. The NES and N64 to a degree probably did pioneer more series and gameplay elements, but the SNES's best are so refined that it's very difficult to find better games within those genres. Also, you guys need to stop listing your top games with the best one first! I say this all the time! |
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Of what significance is the "first (16 bit) go around," though? Certainly series like Zelda, Metroid, Mario, Contra, Final Fantasy and Castlevania had all been building toward those classic 16-bit games since the 8-bit days. If these stand as the ultimate games in their series (and I'd argue against a number of your examples) I'd say it's because everything moved away from sprite-based gaming during the next generation. So the 16-bit era really stands as the cut-off point for this style of gaming, at least for many years. That sort of crystalized them as the height of their genres. It's not necessarily that they were unbeatably good, imho. The ones that did continue, like Castlevania or eventually DKC, offered games that might have even better reputations than their 16 bit counterparts.
Personally, I prefer the revolutionary 8-bit versions of most of those franchise games to their evolutionary 16-bit brethren. I think it's just a simple matter of preference, though. No wrong answers, here. This is the sort of argument you want to have. Both the NES and SNES are darn near perfect consoles.
But I'm with Anand. The NES just felt more exciting to me because all these playstyles were so new. (Strange how I don't feel the same affection for the 64 era, which was equally revolutionary. Probably just my age and low level of engagement during that era.) |
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Anand said:GBA -> DS was a similar progression for me. It was a system with TONS of very good to great games, but not nearly as many DS games blew my socks off as...did... GBA games. That sentence was tortuous. Interesting. As the people that "know" me already know, I feel the DS was the system that interjected a sort of 'new life' into video games. At least for me. Dual-screen and touch-screen gaming was so new at the time, that everything felt fresh again. It wasn't just the same ol' same ol' but prettier. It was unique. This didn't apply to EVERY game of course ( Mario Kart DS, Pokémon and of course NEW Super Mario Bros. all felt and sometimes even looked like past games in their respective franchises) but the many others that did? Man. DS definitely blew the GBA out of the water, at least IMO. And that's saying a lot, because I freakin' LOVED the GBA. (still do, truth be told) GBA was a refinement of Gameboy games, but the DS was something else entirely. @kriswrightGood point. Maybe if 2D gaming continued to evolve, we would have gotten better and better games in various franchises. Maybe we should have let 2D stick around longer, eh? At least to see what would happen? Of course, being young and having nostalgia will also play a factor. As you said, the N64 era doesn't have that same feeling you had during the NES era. Could've just been your age. And I think that's part of why I'm not as engaged in the console side of things now, in this current generation. Not because the games coming out or the systems they are on are bad. It's because I'm older, I'm jaded and I'm far busier than I ever was before. Certainly not gaming's fault. But yeah, good point. Cheers. @Mop it upJust gotta go with what you enjoyed MOST, overall. I...guess? I mean, I enjoyed both Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow and Elite Beat Agents on DS for different reasons, but I can tell you my overall enjoyment and lasting uh, joy, and memory of Castlevania can put it above Elite Beat Agents. I liked both games for different reasons, but I can still tell which I liked more. It's personal, so you just gotta go with your gut. |
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