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How much does E3 really matter to Nintendo? [roundtable]
 
Since I took a long break from video game journalism and discussion before E3, I've been listening to a lot of podcasts and reading impressions about the convention. Everyone seems to agree that Nintendo really blew it at E3 and has tons of ideas about what they would have done to improve both Nintendo's big presentation(s) and their presence at the show in general. It kind of amazes how angry the rants are. Maybe it's because people flew out to LA for the show but I can't imagine my blood boiling the way some people seem to have reacted.

That said, I agree with some of the ideas I've heard and I thought some of them on my own, like thinking Nintendo should have started with Nintendo Land and finished with Pikmin 3 to please the "hardcore" gamers a little more or spending less time on Arkham City when it's old hat at this point.

But, does it really matter? Suppose, for example, that Pikmin 3 had never been discussed before E3. Would it being unveiled and giving the viewers a more exciting surprise actually matter for Nintendo's sales in anyway?

Or a common point I've heard is that Project P-100 should have been shown off during the presentation. Maybe so, but isn't it irrelevant at this point? In this day and age, we're not limited to big conferences for our news. Everyone who cared to know found out about Project P-100 literally minutes after the presentation ended. Does anyone think sales of the game or the Wii U in general are tied to whether the game was unveiled at the presentation or moments later?

Another complaint is that Nintendo didn't just make mention of a big game that will coming well after launch, like they did last year with Smash Bros. for Wii U and 3DS. This announcement to me was completely meaningless. Everyone knew that Smash Bros. was eventually coming for at least Wii U, just as we know that 3D Mario, Zelda and probably Metroid are going to be coming down the line. I honestly don't think people are holding off on buying the Wii U because Nintendo didn't officially confirm those are in the pipeline.

Another complaint I've heard is that New Super Mario Bros. 2 should have been playable the whole convention instead of only being available the last day. NSMB2 is going to sell millions, guaranteed. I honestly think it won't make a lick of difference whether it was playable 3 days, 1 day, or 0 days. The game doesn't get its sales from E3 exposure.

I do think that E3 plays a role in gaining exposure for the video game industry in general (although not nearly what it used to), I'm sure there's back door dealings that I'm not aware of that might have a big impact, and smaller developers certainly can get some time in the sun that they might otherwise not see. But for something as big as Nintendo I think the importance of the event has been significantly reduced, particularly in how it will affect launch interest and sales.

Do you agree?

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06/19/12, 04:44    Edited: 06/19/12, 04:45
 
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Nothing about the Wii U's line up excites me right now. And sure, stuff is coming but when? We don't have any firm details. As such I don't want to put any money down on this thing yet.
06/20/12, 01:01   
@Stephen

Thats your choice, I guess. What is the difference between buying now vs. later though (unless you're expecting a price drop soon)? Something is amiss..
06/20/12, 01:04   
It matters to them at least in so far they try to experiment with it..everyone wanted to forget about NintendoLand, but nintendo said nope, we are giving you fireworks so you think long and hard about this game.
06/20/12, 04:46   
@Stephen
You thought Wii's launch looked better than Wii U's?

06/20/12, 05:21   
Wasn't E3 canceled one year? I don't think its importance is that great anymore, besides companies putting on a show and trying to outdo their competitors. Time spent making demos/preparing presentations takes away from spending more time and money developing games for launch of a brand new system.
06/20/12, 05:29   
Edited: 06/20/12, 05:29
Here's an interesting take on E3 that lent some perspective for me. All hope is not lost for any of us "core gamers". The show just isn't for us anymore.

I'll just cut & past it to save you the click.

Now You're Just an E3 That I Used to Know

-Sean "Elysium" Sands - Thu, 06/07/2012 - 8:44pm



Watching E3 from the comfort of various chairs around my home and office — which I contend is now the preferred way to experience the event — found me spending a lot of time being internally cynical about what I was seeing. I think it is relatively well documented that E3 has lost much of its prestige over the past five years or so, if not longer, but it hadn’t been until the past few events that I really began to wonder whether the industry had just completely lost its way at a top level.

But I also wondered if I was just being caught up in the cynical whirlpool that seems to wander endlessly through the ocean of gaming fandom. After all, I’m on record as saying the past few years have been some of the best in recent memory, and it was only six months ago that I was having to make hard decisions about whether to play Skyrim, Uncharted 3 or Saints Row the Third. Sure, the show may be different from the halcyon days I dimly recall through the lens of nostalgia, but today’s game biz is certainly still cranking out the fun.

I find myself very much left with the question then: Is E3 a relevant gamer event anymore?

And the answer, somewhat surprisingly is, yes. It actually is, but in the context of understanding what the people who control the industry think is important. Not at all as a celebration of the form. It is not an event, it is a warning.

I’m not just talking about the relative affronts of DRM, DLC and other such sinister acronyms. I mean that an E3 presentation, particularly from console makers, is as likely to focus on TV integration, subscriptions, add-on plans or social platforms as it is to actually talk about how a game will be good. Every year it seems that the people with most influence in gaming have less and less investment in or familiarity with what makes for a quality product from a gamer perspective.

I suppose I need to establish that I am drawing an important distinction between the ideas of a “gamer” and a “game consumer,” because from the perspective of the latter I think E3 isn’t just relevant, but perhaps more relevant than ever. I am using a much more niche definition of the term “gamer.” When I use that word, I mean it in the terms that someone might have used it in 1999, meaning specifically an individual who is passionate about the industry, the artform and the evolution of gaming.

Now, of course, these two ideas aren’t mutually exclusive. I, for example, am very much both a “gamer” and a “gaming consumer.” I am as likely to get excited for and buy a critically acclaimed independent title as I am the latest AAA title from EA or Activision. My buying habits are perhaps mitigated but not wholly impeded by a more rigid DRM scheme. In short, my habits tend to represent both the activities of a hardcore gamer as well as the larger buying public.

Perhaps that is why I am torn on E3. I see from an informed point of view the way the soul of E3, if such a phrase has any meaning, is being leached away year after year, but I also know that many of these games that are front and center in the service-driven monetization wars are going to sell a hojillion copies, whether they deserve to or not. We can lambast Madden and Call of Duty all we like for being soulless, money-making machines designed to manipulate and penalize consumers, but any reasonable analysis also has to contend with the practical upshot, which is that they will be very successful soulless manipulation machines.

In that sense, E3 is extremely relevant, assuming you accept that it is, above all else, a business platform to market and highlight a company’s best money-making opportunities in the business. And I think that gets down to the heart of the issue, because the “gamer” side of me wants this to be a celebration of the industry and medium, a show for what will likely be the best games as opposed to simply the games and/or applications that will drive the highest value and best return on investment.

I think E3 is actually extremely successful at being exactly what it needs to be to continue driving in exhibitors, which, let’s be honest, is as important if not more important than drawing attendees. After all, if you build it and you get exhibitors, then you have to work really hard at screwing up the attendees part.

Unfortunately, E3 is not presented that way in most media coverage.

This isn’t the part where I start caning my peers for applauding at IE integration in the Xbox 360. (Though seriously, guys, what the hell?) I just think that, from a gaming enthusiast press side, they/we aren’t doing a good enough job of making it clear what this is. Because if you just watch the gaming sites or the streaming feeds or live blogging, you’d think that this is that old-school celebration. The coverage is bombastic and enthusiastic. The enthusiast press does enough gearing up hype for E3 (in honesty, we play a role in that as well) that the show and the presenters are best served by not dispelling the illusion. The press, which I do think continues to need to be more critical and realistic about this event, spoon feeds marketing spin to an eagerly waiting public. But that coverage isn’t really what E3 is about.

To be fair, I think of all the press in attendance, the enthusiast press — particularly the unaffiliated press — is at least good at noticing and commenting on when the spin is happening. They still deliver it in real time with big headlines, but they aren’t walking around with blindfolds on either.

That aspect they can leave to the mainstream press, who is the final, and perhaps weakest, piece of the puzzle. When even CNN covers the event but appears to not understand that the Wii U is an entirely new console as opposed to a peripheral for the existing Wii, it’s impossible to expect that they are going to actually have a critical analysis in the next paragraph.

I think of E3 now as a mission statement by businessmen about the new shackles they plan to lock on the people in the industry who actually do care about games. It’s a high-profile quarterly earnings call, where big businesses are as much talking to shareholders and casual consumers as they are gamers. It is the chance to spin always-on DRM, and corporate partnerships between different media holders that purport to add value while, overall, entrenching outdated ideas about how and when people should get content.

E3 certainly has people in it that are in the business because they like games, but they are not the point. As a “gamer,” you have to be willing to go look for them not just on the show floor, but also in the coverage you consume. I suppose that could be seen as a sign that the medium and more specifically the methods of making money from the medium have matured. It's like television, music, movies or books. if you are passionate about the form then probably you aren't watching the prime-time network schlock, reading James Patterson or listening to my Spotify playlists. In some ways I suppose that makes the special games that are still for us a little more special, but I still can't help but watch my Spike TV feed of E3 and feel that something I once loved is lost.
06/20/12, 05:39   
@New Forms

Eh. I didn't feel it was that good. The guy seemed to talk in circles sometimes. I feel like I read the whole thing only to find out that he's bummed about E3 nowadays. That could've been done in two sentences. Purple Prose, is it?

Anyway, I think more importantly we need to remember that we're no longer the target demographic. We're "old" guys with jobs (the majority here in our 30's and 40's and beyond, a few still in the mid-late 20's), and in some cases children for whom the games are more adequately geared.
06/20/12, 11:59   
@Mr_Mustache I don't think there is a direct age market for Nintendo anymore. The y market and make their games for people who grew up with Nintendo. That's why we enjoy their games, not because we are kiddy gamers.
06/20/12, 13:26   
@carlosroxAre we talking about raw amount of games or quality? I'd take the next major Zelda over a new Pikmin and NSMB. Wii Sports also looked way more intriguing than Nintendoland. Everything else, I either don't care about or have alternate means to play.

@Mr_Mustache
Fundamentally money is worth more now than it is later. That's a basic principle in economics.

But discounting that I am going to have lots of gaming opportunities this year and lots to play as it is. Buying a console which I wouldn't play all that much at first would be a waste of money that I would rather spend on games that are coming out that I am interested in.
06/20/12, 13:30   
Edited: 06/20/12, 13:36
@Stephen Both? All of the games in both the Pikmin and NSMB series have been well reviewed. So was Rayman Origins, for that matter. And NintendoLand might not be what you were expecting what were you expecting, Wii Sports 3?! but it will most likely be good. And then a billion other games. There is reason to believe that there will be at least a small handful of great, exclusive games at the Wii U launch... and probably a bit more.

I wonder if we're not just looking back on the Wii launch with rosy glasses a bit. I remember hearing a lot of talk about how Twilight Princess wasn't even a Wii game. This didn't really matter to me, but apparently it mattered to a lot of other people...
06/20/12, 18:38   
To me there is no contest. I'm definitely getting the Wii U at launch, and I'm very excited about the games, unlike the only other time I was an early adopter with the 3DS (which is fine, now). But yeah, I wasn't even looking at the Wii all that much until July after its launch.
06/20/12, 18:53   
The WiiU launch is definitely better than the 3DS launch.

I'll admit though, I don't feel like I HAVE to get one at launch like I did with the Gamecube and, to a lesser extent, the Wii (which I got later because it was so hard to find). Do I want one? Absolutely. Am I going "OMFG ROGUE LEADER LOOKS AWESOME AND THEN SMASH BROS SOON AFTER!!!!" ? Definitely not.

I certainly want one more than the 3DS when it launched. When the 3DS launched I was just like...."This thing is kind of uncomfortable and looks like it'll break easily, and someone wake me up when there's a must have game on it."
06/20/12, 19:07   
My hype level for the Wii U launch is maybe not quite as high as it was for other systems in the past, but I think that has a bit more to do with A. I'm now in the midst of paying off 33k in school loans and B. I am trying to buckle down with working on the site / my music / other things so I don't find as much time for games anymore.

The launch lineup itself is probably the best on a Nintendo platform since the Gamecube. Certainly destroys the 3DS and DS, and I'd argue it beats out the Wii.
06/20/12, 19:17   
Personally I will buy a Wii U (or at least I would, if i had the money) when enough games I want are available for it. Pikmin 3 looks promising but I'm not willing to buy a console for just one game. Yes, we all know Zelda, Metroid (maybe) and Super Smash Bros are down the line but I don't want to wait a year with perhaps little else to play on it until those titles appear on the market. With that said, this release date looks rubust. I'll reserve my judgement until November, however.

To answer the original question, I do think Nintendo care about E3. Many news sites like CNN (sadly) and other sources that normally don't pay much attention to videogames are paying attention to what's going on. It's a great platform to sell your console. Sadly, I think they butchered the whole thing. Only time will tell how this will affect their sales, however.


@WrathOfSamus777

Bad analogy, if anything, it would be the olympics. If it were the super bowl of gaming there would be games shown for one demogra...
06/20/12, 19:37   
Edited: 06/20/12, 19:40
@Stephen

The time value of money really only applies if you're going to be investing it. And I'm not sure how Canada is compared to the US, but here you're likely only going to get a negative real interest rate, so it makes more sense to spend than to save anyway.
06/20/12, 20:33   
@Jargon

Are you talking about either paltry amounts or in specific circumstances? I can't think of many conditions under which spending is more fiscally sound than saving. And the only circumstance I can think of offhand where you'd get a negative interest rate would be one in which you're doing a straight savings account that you create, never contribute to after the fact, and compare that to inflation or cost of living escalation.

Not trying to call you out, but that's an odd statement.
06/20/12, 20:54   
@Kal-El814

The "real" interest rate takes into account inflation. So if you're getting a 1% interest rate, but inflation is 3%, you're actually losing value on your investment, hence a negative rate.

Obviously in Stephen's case there's other factors to be taken into account like saving money for something more important than video games and what he said about wanting to spend the money on other games that he wants more, but I was just commenting on the idea that his money is worth more now. Unless he's talking purely about inflation in which case the Wii U will also cost less in the future due to inflation.
06/20/12, 21:03   
Jargon said:
so it makes more sense to spend than to save anyway.

Well... if you're spending it right. Like right now probably the best thing to do if you have money is to buy a nice place and either A. live in it or B. rent it out. On the flipside spending all of your money on casinos and strip clubs probably isn't the best investment... depending on what you want out of life I guess.
06/20/12, 21:14   
@Jargon

That's absolutely true, but I don't know anyone that invests seriously that is only getting a 1% return on their investments over any meaningful period of time.

Anyway I don't want to horribly derail the thread, so... never mind! :p
06/20/12, 21:23   
@Kal-El814 Yeah, right now they're LOSING money.

Ok maybe that's just me. Ug. I do own some stock in companies that will probably rebound though... eventually.
06/20/12, 21:25   
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