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Do you think the Wii U will have an achievement system? [poll]
 
Yes (22/29 votes)
 76%
No (3/29 votes)
 10%
Unsure (4/29 votes)
 14%
 

Could this be Nintendo's Achievement System?


There's been rumbling for the past few months, especially during the last week, about Nintendo implementing an Achievement System for the Wii U. E3 came and went with no official mention/confirmation by Nintendo. And yet, we have this curious golden "bubble" message from a screen capture of New Super Mario Bros. U. What do you guys think?

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Posted: 06/10/12, 05:46:37  - Edited by 
 on: 06/10/12, 07:22:42
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I really only like Achievements when they're in some sort of arcade game like Pac-Man Championship, because it allows you to approach a simple game in different ways. I don't really need Achievements every time I beat a world in a Mario game.
Posted: 06/11/12, 08:11:41
In general I like achievements. The best ones act somewhat like a guided tour of the game and lets you know when you have experienced everything. The ones that need to be done away with are the grindtastic ones.
Posted: 06/11/12, 11:42:53
No achievement system for games, though developers can add achievements to their games if they want.

That shouldn't bother the people here just using achievements as a "guide" through the game, right?
Posted: 06/11/12, 18:17:11
@Guillaume

That's too bad, but not a deal-breaker or anything.

One thing I'll miss is being able to compare Achievements with people on my Friends List. It's always fun to see what my friends are up to with common games that we enjoy.
Posted: 06/11/12, 18:35:39
It is. That's why I post on Negative World and discuss games.
Posted: 06/11/12, 18:42:55
Achievements are great. Shots of dopamine to the brain is kinda what video games are all about. But I wouldn't say achievements are necessary. I'm a bit OCD at times, so not getting all achievements in a game was something I had to get used to quick. They're always mutliplayer ones I won't get. Or collect a billion of item X ones I don't bother with. Or play this game ten times. So the ones I do get just tend to be finished level 1, finished level 2, etc.

There's also the question in my mind of do I look at achievements before I play the game? On the one hand discovering them is half the fun and there's the possibility of spoilers. On the other hand if you look at achievements after beating a game and find one or two you could've easily done if you knew about them that can be really frustrating. And when it comes down to it my gamer score means way less to me that I thought it would.
Posted: 06/11/12, 19:40:42
I've actually been thinking about this a fair bit lately and what I HOPE they do is have the achievements unlock coins that can be spent in games to unlock things or in system features - kind of like how coins can be used on the 3DS.

That to me would be ideal. I love achievements/trophies. I like the coin system on the 3DS. Merge the two and I think you'll have something special and unique.
Posted: 06/11/12, 19:43:12
@gojira
I agree achievements aren't necessary, but they're nice, easy to implement, and a lot of people love them. Seems foolish and short-sighted not to implement them, sounds to me like another from-the-top decision made in Japan that shows just how out of touch Iwata and friends are with western gamers.

If Nintendo thought it was too restrictive to "force" developers to have them, then they could have made them optional, the result would have been the same, achievements for nearly all 3rd party games, and I'm sure even some 1st Party developers would have been into it, Retro for sure who already showed they think achievements are a good idea by creating their own cross-game rewards system in the Metroid Prime Trilogy.
Posted: 06/11/12, 19:44:17  - Edited by 
 on: 06/11/12, 19:46:48
@Guillaume

I'm not QUITE sure what that means. Individual games can have achievement checklists, but there won't be a unified system to track them like trophies or gamerscore?
Posted: 06/11/12, 19:54:37
@Kal-El814

That's how I read Reggie's comment. They won't force developers to add achievements to their games, but they won't stop them either. To me that doesn't sound like it will be a unified system.
Posted: 06/11/12, 20:00:34
@Guillaume

Yeah, agreed. Not surprising, but a bit disappointing. I wouldn't have an issue with a non-unified system if the games with achievements always had a way to compare stuff between gamers but that doesn't seem likely; that's what I like most about achievements!
Posted: 06/11/12, 20:02:24
@Kal-El814
Think of Wii Sports Resort - it has an achievement system in that game. But it is only relevant when playing that game - there is no metascore or anything on a system-level basis.
Posted: 06/11/12, 20:41:30
@Guillaume

That's kind of annoying. I understand they don't want to force developers (i.e their own internal teams) to use achievements, but does that really mean they can't create a universal system for 3rd-parties to plug into?

How hard would it be to do something like Microsoft's game list and just have next to Mario or whatever 'This game doesn't have any achievements' next to it?
Posted: 06/11/12, 23:09:05
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