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  Stephen B  
The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword on the Wii
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Alrighty everyone, the game is finally out in all primary regions.... IDreamofHime was the first to receive their copy here on the boards. This is the place to discuss it!!!

Welcome to the thread on Negative World where all wondrous Zelda talk can occur. I would recommend that if you wanna talk about deeper-game stuff as we get going, perhaps spoiler-tag it and then describe outside of spoilers where in the game it is. The recent Super Mario 3D Land Discussion Thread is a good example. That'll allow people who aren't too far to read the thread without actually spoiling stuff for them. Just try to be courteous but definitely have fun with the game and discussions!!


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11/17/11, 19:54    Edited: 09/20/12, 03:19
 
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  MikeD487  
jonjon85 said:
Imprisoned fight three was rage inducing.Definitely the hardest fight in the game for me.Jumping onto his head doesn't work in that fight,he simply throws you off,I tried it after hitting his feet didn't seem to be working.Arrows don't work on his feet either.still beat it on my first attempt.

Really? I remember jumping on his head all three times. Maybe he's just quicker the third time around and you have to start slashing right when you land, or he has to be stunned with a bomb? Either way I don't remember ever hacking at his feet.
12/09/11, 02:22   
  jonjon85  
MikeD487 said:
jonjon85 said:
Imprisoned fight three was rage inducing.Definitely the hardest fight in the game for me.Jumping onto his head doesn't work in that fight,he simply throws you off,I tried it after hitting his feet didn't seem to be working.Arrows don't work on his feet either.still beat it on my first attempt.

Really? I remember jumping on his head all three times. Maybe he's just quicker the third time around and you have to start slashing right when you land, or he has to be stunned with a bomb? Either way I don't remember ever hacking at his feet.

Didn't work for me,I jumped on him and landed right next to the seal thing on his head,but it instantly threw me off,so I figured that trick wouldnt work this time.The only way to attack him this time seemed to be by bombing him first.
12/09/11, 02:30   
  carlosrox  
Finished the game and will move my discussion mostly to the "finished" thread. The game was amazing, but yes, for now, I'd say a little disappointing.

One thing in particular really bugged me. I mentioned awhile ago that I had a theory about one of the characters.

Only read if you've finished the game
I fucking SWORE Groose was going to be Ganon. Honestly. If this never occured to you or you think this sounds stupid, take a moment and really analyze it. He fucking LOOKS like Ganon (red hair, big, strong, obsessed with power, ambition, YELLOW eyes, these brown gloves) first off, and the game pays entirely too much attention to him. The Old Impa implies multiple times that "he has a bigger part to play", he envies Link, he's obsessed with Zelda. Then there's all this talk about Demise needed to be resurrected and all that. Seeing as this game was advertised as an origin story, I thought it all made so much sense. I was ready for Groose to become Ganon, but not out of his own will. I don't mean he was Ganon in disguise, but rather he would be possessed somehow by Ganon, or he'd BECOME Ganon. I am SO so SO SOOOOO disappointed that Groose was not Ganon, honestly. It SHOULD have been him. Part of me thinks they wanted to trick you he was gonna be Ganon or something. All the signs I just mentioned are super weird. And as an origin story it would have made tons of sense for these 3 to be in close proximity considering the nature of the Triforce and how all 3 are bound together forever. Then add in how all 3 characters interact with eachother. Maybe they were considering it early on? Honestly. I refuse to believe that this wasn't done on purpose. In the end, why was so much attention payed to Groose if he was just another side character in the game? He even mentioned early on how he wanted to be strong, wanted to be the hero, ETC! And which Triforce piece does Ganon hold? POWER. What does Ganon want? POWER. To be stronger and to rule everyone!

HONESTLY!!! Am I the only one who noticed this? He even has that ruby on his chest while Ganon (in OOT at least) had a ruby on his damn head.
Am I crazy, reading into things too much, or am I onto something? Honestly, that would have been an amazing origin story to tell if Ganon was good at one point and became corrupted because he wanted to be stronger, he WANTED to be good. Sorta like Anakin in Star Wars. Huge missed opportunity and it shows I am better than Nintendo.

Can I get some thoughts on this? I really wanna know what others think of my idea.
12/09/11, 03:33   
Edited: 12/09/11, 03:33
  Shadowlink  
@carlosrox

Nope. I totally thought there'd be a connection too! I saw the resemblence same as you. Maybe Groose founding the Gerudo, perhaps being Ganondorf's ancestor or something
12/09/11, 03:50   
Edited: 12/09/11, 03:50
  DrFinkelstein  
@carlosrox

Very interesting... I never noticed that once. It never occurred to me. But they could still do something like that in the future, if there's going to be a "close" sequel of some kind.
12/09/11, 03:52   
  GelatinousEncore  
@carlosrox Your theory would actually be awesome, because of everything you said, AND since Zelda is the Goddess in a girl's body. Ganon could be doing the same, only possessing someone instead of willingly being revived into a person. Because, you know, he's evil. It would be perfect! I would actually prefer that, Ganon possessing a random dude, instead of a random dude becoming evil himself. But of course it didn't happen. Instead we get a generic bad guy huge evil monster person that is heavily implied to be Ganon.
12/09/11, 04:02   
Edited: 12/09/11, 04:04
  carlosrox  
Thanks a ton guys. I expected to be flamed/called an idiot for thinking that.

I honestly thought it was an amazing idea, and secretly knew it was too good for Nintendo to use, as horrible as that sounds.

@GelatinousEncore
I'm totally with you. That would have been the most amazing origin story and would have made Groose that much more awesome, and he'd be a tragic character. What would be even better would be if Ganon himself was never his own character, but a product of this evil force (Demise or whatever it is) and a good person. Or if Groose was seduced by the idea of power. Such a monstrously missed opportunity. I think it would have transformed Zelda forever, and for the much much better. Breaks my fuckin' heart that they didn't go with this idea.
12/09/11, 04:12   
  DrFinkelstein  
@carlosrox

Well...

Demise himself states that he will always be around in an evil incarnation. So there's no doubt in my mind that he's Ganon and Ganondorf in various forms. Though Groose was not born Gerudo so he couldn't be Ganondorf no? With Groose having helped Link and all that has now happened, could he still turn into that? Would it work?
12/09/11, 04:18   
  rebonack  
Shadowlink said:
@carlosrox

Nope. I totally thought there'd be a connection too! I saw the resemblence same as you. Maybe Groose founding the Gerudo, perhaps being Ganondorf's ancestor or something

I could see this. Ganondorf isn't the only Gerudo with red hair and yellow eyes -- I'm pretty sure that's the case for all of them. Groose-rudo?

I actually had the same theory as you initially, @carlosrox. I think I like the way Groose turned out better than if he had been Ganon, but it would have been interesting for sure.
12/09/11, 04:36   
  MikeD487  
@carlosrox

Yup, I thought the same thing from pretty early on. I thought there would be some nod at the end, at the very least. After each cutscene i was thinking "here it comes!" But, nothing... I do agree with those who think he is somehow linked to the Gerudos. His stylings match them perfectly.
12/09/11, 05:22   
  OrbitalBeard  
I have clocked in 46 hours and am currently in the middle of all the tasks you are asked to do after the sixth dungeon. This game is absolutely massive. Despite a number of flaws, Skyward Sword is one of the best games I've played in a very long time.
12/09/11, 08:37   
  Stephen  
End of game spoilers

Groose was shown to be too much of a buffoon to make me think they would actually go through with it. If they had linked the two it probably would have served more to undermine Ganon than build up Groose.
12/09/11, 11:40   
  carlosrox  
@stephen08
Not necessarily cuz again, if done a certain way, Groose could have been seduced or possessed by Demise/Ganon.
12/09/11, 12:29   
  Stephen  
@carlosrox

But he's still Groose. He was a dope from the beginning. He only became compelling once he went to the surface with you. There was no good moment for him to turn. The character would have to be totally rewritten in order to make what you are suggesting work. It would be like in OoT if Mido turned out to be Ganon or something. I was actually dreading they would tie Groose in to Ganon's origin for about half the game and then it became clear it was just never going to happen.
12/09/11, 12:48   
  Shadowlink  
Finished! Awesome game. Some flaws of course, but the good far outweighs the bad. I'll do a proper summary later.

And now I'm reading the ending thread, I see that I was supposed to use Skyward strikes in the second part of the Demise fight?! That punce Fi told me at the start that I couldn't use them, so I didn't bother! Bah.

Basically used the invincibility potion + the potion medal and beat him that way.

And random final musing. Not a fan of Fi. The character as a whole was robotic and pointless. What little importance she had to the story was effectively shoehorned in, just so Link had a companion. Midna > Fi. Hell even Navi >Fi.
12/09/11, 12:51   
Edited: 12/09/11, 12:52
  Stephen  
@Shadowlink

Tatl will always be the best. Good personality, arc, and most importantly quiet 99% of the time.
12/09/11, 12:55   
  Shadowlink  
@stephen08

Yeah Tatl was pretty cool. But Midna was a bit more fleshed out I think.

...And Linebeck. Let's not forget Linebeck. Him and Celia were a crack-up.
12/09/11, 13:17   
  carlosrox  
About Fi at the end of the game

Fi sorta redeemed herself with that moment at the end. I found it touching, and surprisingly so for a bad character who we don't get attached to.
12/09/11, 13:21   
  Stephen  
@Shadowlink

Linebeck is disqualified for being in the worst Zelda game of all time. Of ALL the times.
12/09/11, 13:23   
  TriforceBun  
I'd like to join in on all this ending discussion, but I only just did the Eldin Volcano Hero Song section...at least I'm getting close! It was kind of a video game cliche, but I enjoyed it well enough, and the lighting and atmosphere added to the feel.

I was reading some miscellaneous threads last night and they reminded me of how much I enjoyed the writing in this game. Especially the part late in the game where Zelda reveals the full story of the game to Link. Her being sincerely sorry for dragging him into this quest (the theme of Link being pulled into danger against his will isn't visited enough), her mentioning that despite being Hylia's reincarnation, "I'm still your Zelda," Link running up desperately to her only to have another wall block him, and Zelda referencing the very beginning of the game by telling Link that he'll have to wake her (which also tied nicely into recurring themes of the series--such as Zelda being encapsulated in a crystal, and/or in a deep sleep--but in a more personal way than in the past).

It was really well done, I thought, and I got the chills in ways similar to the key emotional moments in Pixar films. Sentimental and touching without being mushy or twee.
12/09/11, 18:17   
Edited: 12/09/11, 18:18
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