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Which games do you feel have aged well/poorly, and why? [roundtable]
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Seeing all of the Metroid I hate being flung around has put this topic on my mind. What makes a game age well? What makes a game age poorly? Is nostalgia the biggest factor of your enjoyment of an old title? Feel free to share any of your experiences. I'll start with one: StarTropics. A very divisive game. Never played it back in the day, bought it on VC. It was clunky by modern standards, but still eminently playable, and I enjoyed it quite a bit. In fact, I found it's lack of mercy to be quite refreshing. That's how most of the games that I was introduced to on the VC feel to me: refreshing. It seems that many of the modern tenets of game design annoy me. A counter-example: Beyond Oasis. Blech. Interesting in concept. Horrible in execution. Actually, much of the Sega Genesis Collection gave me that impression. Begin the Segacide! But first, let's go back to good ol', controversial ol' Metroid 1. When I played that game, it was like a nuclear bomb. Just so fresh and innovative and incredible, and, at the time, I was so receptive to that type of exploratory experience. And, like StarTropics, I feel like the game design generally accounts for those 'antiquated' elements. But maybe it's almost impossible for a new player to appreciate things like the Ice Beam and Morph Ball after the game has had so many sequels. On the other hand, I got the 3D Classics version of Twinbee, which is significantly more simple than the sequels that I am familiar with. But I can appreciate it for what it is. So it seems that I am capable of enjoying an old game, as long as the design is solid (or NOT enjoying one, if it's a Sega game). The question is, can I personally overcome the power of nostalgia? I'm trying to think of a game that I loved before, but hate now (or vice versa), and I'm having some difficulty. So either my judgment was always coolly rational, or I can't separate out my happy memories. How about you guys? What's your take on vintage games? URL to share (right click and copy)
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09/29/11, 18:15 Edited: 09/29/11, 18:20
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[ref=id=6623&pagenumber=2#185730]TriforceBun said:[/ref][quote][ref=id=6623&pagenumber=2#185728]stephen08 said:[/ref][quote]Goldeneye and Perfect Dark are both very antiquated.[/quote] Nah, for me, these are some of the most replayable N64 games and FPSes. I love the stealth-based gameplay and wide variety of weaponry (two things that have since died out), not to mention the sheer volume of stuff to do in the games. I don't think I'll ever get tired of PD.
A lot of N64 games do feel pretty old and chunky at this point though, mainly due to the graphics and early 3D training ground feel. I feel like I can't play 99% of Atari games either--that's the point where it's just too old for me.[/quote] Go buy Deus Ex Human Revolution and thank me later.
[ref=id=6623&pagenumber=1#185707]@Anand[/ref]
I agree the 64 has more games that stand up today, however other than flagship Nintendo AAA efforts like Mario 64, Waverace (which I played in HD via emulator a while back and imo has stood up better than any game from the generation, it is hard to believe it came out fifteen years ago), Banjo and Ocarina, the list is incredibly short. I would be hard pressed to find ten games on the 64 that I would deem worth playing today.
The PSone has even less, though they did have some pretty great jrpgs which due to the fact they move like molasses and rely on static, pre rendered backgrounds held up ok. Actually I take that back. If you like jrpgs, then I suppose it's a wash between the 64 and PSone, if you don't it's the 64 all the way. The 3D based action games on the PSone were a fucking travesty. |
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@Oldmanwinter Hmm, here I go, still playable... StarFox 64 Sin & Punishment Super Mario 64 The Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time The Legend of Zelda Majora's Mask Paper Mario Mario Kart 64 (battle mode) Pilotwings 64 Waverace 64 Blast Corps Tetrisphere 1080 Snowboarding Robotron 64 Also playable, though have been surpassed by sequels so kind of pointless now... F-Zero X Super Smash Brothers Mario Golf Mario Tennis Maybe? Banjo Kazooie Rogue Squadron Excitebike 64 Probably forgetting a few. |
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