@GameDadGrant Well... nothing has changed, but enough has changed to make it kind of weird to go back to the early ones instead of a modern one. I dunno, it's tough to explain what I mean, but certain franchises and styles and genres to me lend themselves better to going back to than others. Like, I LOVED the original Smash Brothers (I didn't even find out until later that it was Melee that got most people hooked) but would I recommend it now? Nah, because it has basically been surpassed in a way to make the original kind of pointless at this point.
So maybe Parappa doesn't quite fit into that since it doesn't have tons of follow-ups, but as a genre I sort of feel about it the same way I feel about the original Smash... that you can find stuff now that is basically the same thing but better. I feel the same way about some other genres too. Like, it'd be tough for me to go back to an old racing game now, unless it was some totally unique racing game, because I feel like, for the most part, newer racing games contain everything good about old racing games and then some.
Still, Parappa did have awesome music going for it. Maybe I'll check it out eventually. Never played Gitaroo Man.
@Guillaume Sort of, but I think action/adventure games have the advantage of at least having different items, puzzles, moves, enemies, etc. The rhythm game genre doesn't have very expansive gameplay.
Super Metroid or Super Mario Bros. 3? Honestly? Maybe! Those games are awesome, and I wouldn't judge anyone for saying either of those are the best game of all time. (or at least saying it's their favorite of all time)
Also... maybe I'm confused, but I thought I was agreeing with you on Ocarina place? Like, I agree it shouldn't be defaulted as "the best" but at the same time, I completely understand why many gamers/Nintendo fans believe that. Which is what I think you are saying too. If not... then I'm really confused!
I believe that Metroid Prime and Super Metroid are both great games. I'm in an interesting position here, having played Prime a whole lot more than Super Metroid at the time Prime came out. In fact, I had only played like 5 minutes of Super Metroid in the SNES during the 90s. I played hours upon hours of Prime as soon as it came out and over the years, and I have still not beat it. I always lose interest halfway. When I bought Super Metroid on the Wii VC, I played it for hours on that day and finished it the next day. I never lost interest in that game. It just clicked with me the way Prime never did. It was so much more fun.
So without any nostalgia goggles for Super Metroid or Metroid Prime, I find that Super Metroid is the better game.
Mode 7 is cool in moderation. If Secret of Mana was 100% Mode 7 instead of just the Flammie parts, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have been able to stomach it. I never really thought about it, but I think that my brain really doesn't like Mode 7. Its unnatural!
I physically returned F-Zero brand new (the only game I've ever returned after buying it), and I just remembered how much I HATE the top-down boards in Contra III. Pukeamania!
Yeah, I think that's actually why I could never really get into F-Zero SNES as well. But that said, when the game has a mix of it, it's very enjoyable. Zipping around in an airship in FF3 was always awesome. And I actually really liked those top-down Contra III stages. Much more than the old "base"-style levels.
Yeah I don't know if Paleo's original example is necessarily nostalgia....a huge argument can be made that Super Metroid is better than Metroid Prime. It's faster paced, the music is arguably better, the world design is arguably better, etc. It's also tough because Metroid Prime is kind of older now (Its 10th anniversary will actually be next year).
Now, if he had said something like, "Why doesn't Nintendo make Mario shows anymore? The Mario Super show is so much better than the shit kids have these days," then I would say there's some nostalgia at work, haha. Or something like "Final Fantasy 7's graphics are still amazing, and they kicked the shit out of anything on the N64."
It's also a tough call because Super Metroid is one of the best games of all time. If he had said that he loved Super Metroid and he thought that Other M was garbage, I wouldn't have thought twice about it.
Also, as an aside, we used to joke that the Mode 7 sequences in Secret of Mana reminded us of our local news channel's doppler radar, haha. It was the first game I played where the Mode 7 REALLY zoomed out so you could see a lot.