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Pokémon Black Version Discussion (Nintendo DS) [game]
 
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Pokémon Black Version Review (Nintendo DS) (8.7)  by  

NOTE: This thread is for discussion of both Black and White.

Unless there is and I missed it.

I've gotten tons of hours on this thing! Probably cause it continues to count play time even when you've got the DS closed in sleep mode, but still!

How's your Pokedex? What was your starter? Hardest gym? Fight any battles online? Do any trades?! What version did you get?!?!?!?!

Favorite city so far? You experience a critical capture yet? Pick up your Victini? Looking forward to rated battles on the 30th? Relieved that there's no calls from Joey?!

I've got a few questions of my own:

1. Aside from trading/transferring, can you run across older Pokemon, or are they all Gen V? I actually like Gen V, feels like original Pokemon to me again, aside from a few. (Fucking Druddigon looks stupid!)

2. Are shinies as hard to come by as I heard for the other versions? Don't think I've ever run across one.

3. Wouldn't a Pokemon MMO end the world? The world map could be all the regions from all 5 generations, basically being the main game and 4 expansions right out the bat... You'd play as trainers, and could directly control your Pokemon in combat, going to a more RTS style for multi-battles, or even turn-based if you chose that method! PvP would be battling other players, PvE would be battling and capturing wild Pokemon, and end-game could be earning badges and fighting real players in the Pokemon League! hfiefhwifhiwlurhweirhwuileh I've been repeating this same idea for like 11 years now!


Anyhow, here's where I'm at, playing almost non-stop: 7 badges, 101 Pokemon seen, 63 captured, Snivy was starter, hardest gym was the bug one, which I still beat almost exclusively using Snivy (Forget his second form's name, since I nickname my Pokeymans.) and was proud of that, since Bug Bite hurts like a bastard! My highest level Pokemon is currently Simipour, who is much more powerful than I would have initially thought, as I had only started putting her first to take advantage of my Amulet Coin for double money against trainers.

I've already got a certain legendary from a certain cave that I remembered after I learned a certain ability. (Trying to keep spoilers, what little there are for Pokemon, to a minimum.)

I think the story, so far, beats the crap out of previous non-spinoff games. A lot more in-depth with the characters. Still pretty basic, but I feel like they're actual characters to some extent now instead of Pokemon billboards.

Loving the more cinematic feel to the game. There's an actual brief cut-scene later on in the game that's pretty sweet!

Animated sprites make it feel so much more alive.

Triple Battles are fun but a little chaotic, but rotational battles are genius and a lot of fun!

My sister was on the DP forums or something, and was able to get a whatchacallit Roroark or whatever from a trade, she used it in battle against me and I thought it was her Panpour, pretty cool Pokemon, but I still dominated her and saved the battle video! A little disappointed you can only save one at a time, is there a way to upload them?

I haven't gotten to use any of the Munna stuff with the Dream Dust yet... is that for end-game?

I haven't really gotten into a Pokemon game since Red/Blue, because they all felt very similar to Red and Blue without enough change aside from unfamiliar Pokemon, which never felt quite as good as the originals to me, nostalgia and all that. I did enjoy Diamond/Pearl, and even beat them, but I don't remember being enthralled with them like I was with Black, which is the version I got. Nintendo did me good!

I grabbed my Victini the other day and he took quite a few Ultra Balls to catch, as I currently only have one Pokemon with any status effects. Love the battle music for fighting Legendaries! It's almost tribal, very much gets you into the mood.

Got my first (and so far only) critical capture on a Deerling, which I nicknamed Megabambi. Was a cool moment, and a great feature. Seems very very rare, though.

I'd go on, but I've ranted and raved enough!

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Posted: 03/13/11, 02:09:22  - Edited by 
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@PogueSquadron

I think Gold/Silver/Crystal are all so fondly remembered because of when it came out. The game added SO MUCH content to the original formula, and it was amazing at the time. I mean, the real-time clock, calendar and all the special events and characters that revolved around that system was ground-breaking at the time. Plus the graphics were improved, special effects were added, hold items, two brand-new Pokémon types, 100 new monsters... it was a HUGE step up. And sure, Kanto was smaller and less "exciting" in the post-game stuff, but hey. It was a Gameboy game. Those cartridges can only hold so much data. Besides, how cool was it to find (and defeat!) the *REAL* end boss in that game? That's fan-service done RIGHT.

Gen 3 didn't take quite as big of steps. The whole time mechanic was gone. The graphics, despite being on GBA, were not a drastic improvement over what we've seen on the original GB and GBC. There was no secret area (i.e. Kanto, like in Gold/Silver/Crystal) and no nods to the older games at all. No new Pokémon types. It didn't feel quite as big of a deal. At least, to me. 2nd generation did SO MUCH. Third generation? Not so much.

Of course, all the improvements and innovations Generation 2 did all feel like old-hat after you've played Generation 5. Maybe you just had to be there back in the day to really appreciate it all.
Posted: 05/09/11, 17:01:23
I think I can understand why people loved it at the time...but looking at it now, despite the extra towns in G/S/C, I still feel like D/P and B/W are better games.

To me, even though B/W's post game stuff is kind of "fluff" (aka, a few towns that you can't really do a whole lot in), I feel like it's the most refined version of Pokemon yet. Even though it's shorter than HG/SS, I think the meat of the game is much more compelling, and if I had to replay one of the games, it would be Black and White in a heartbeat.

I guess I never cared all that much for timed events in the Pokemon games, which is why I remember having fun with Gen 3. That, and in an RPG, music is very important to me. In a mindless (at times) game like Pokemon, a good soundtrack is essential, and I thought it kind of made Gen 3 a joy to play.
Posted: 05/09/11, 18:30:47
@PogueSquadron

Oh yeah, Diamond/Pearl/Platinum and Black/White are better games than Gold/Silver/Crystal. No one said otherwise though, right? Or did I miss that? I think people were just disappointed in Generation 3, when a lot of things were either taken out or not expanded upon. But after that, all the sequels were undeniably better. No doubt about it.

Good call on the music in Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald. I still really dig the music in Verdanturf. Really great stuff, IMHO.

Posted: 05/10/11, 18:40:45
Well, I just beat Red. It was basically me raising up a Dugtrio so I could one hit KO Pikachu (thanks to the Quick Claw, admittedly). Then the rest of the fight was kind of just me reviving the hell out of my Pokemon and letting Hail do its job, mixed in with some timely Thunderbolts and Psychics.

I still have to...
Catch Latias (which I may not do, it's way too annoying to get to the right route. MUCH more annoying than Raikou and Entei)
Catch Lugia
Catch Moltres (but I know I'm never going to use it so I'm not sure)
Receive a Hoenn starter (probably going with Treecko)
Catch Kyogre

After doing those, I guess I can just start shipping Pokemon off to Black and aseemble a team? Is there anything else I should make sure to do? I know I can fight the E4 again after beating Red, but meh.
Posted: 05/17/11, 05:02:22  - Edited by 
 on: 05/17/11, 05:03:06
I was going to make a seperate thread about this, but then decided to post it here due to longevity. Most people forget that Nintendo announced a Pokemon Black/White version on the 3DS, but many people couldn't wait for that to happen. Admittingly, it's killing me day by day not having this game . However, I stumbled on a story that might make the wait worth it. Well not a story, but a link to a thread found on Neogaf that illustrate what Pokemon Black/White "could" look like on the 3DS. If you guys have the Pokemon software on your 3DS, check out this website and select AR Viewer. It's hot!!! Link

Examples are found here toward the bottom.

For the Lazy:

Posted: 06/22/11, 15:14:00  - Edited by 
 on: 06/22/11, 15:16:40
3D POKÉMON!?! This is blasphemy!

Interesting, though. I wonder what incentives Nintendo is going to give those who already have the "normal" version to "upgrade" to the 3DS version?
Posted: 06/22/11, 16:28:21
I would really just hope that if they have 3D Pokemon, they have them in a 3D environment. If they're just going to be out in some sort of "space" like that, I think I'd rather just have the sprites.

To me, the whole benefit of having 3D characters isn't just seeing the more volumetric polygons, but also having shifts in camera and that kind of stuff. Granted, in a Pokemon game, you want the battles to be as quick as possible, but for things like a Pokemon fainting, getting sent out, etc, I kind of want that dynamic sweeping camera to spice up the action.

Edit: Also, in the single player mode (and I really wish more games would do this) they should really let you pause the game at any moment and move the camera around to take pictures that you could upload online or something. Pokemon is such a personal game, so I think it makes sense - especially if they ever let you tweak how your Pokemon looks visually (Maybe with some sort of tattoo or hat or something like that you could draw on).
Posted: 06/23/11, 03:56:25  - Edited by 
 on: 06/23/11, 04:14:53
Anyone have a Vullaby? It's not available in White, so I'd like to try it out. Preferably with the Big Pecks ability I guess since Overcoat probably wouldn't be as useful since Sandstorm and Hail aren't used too often. As for gender, well, I don't know what a Vullaby or Mandibuzz look like, but if they look more feminine then I'd like a female, but if they're more masculine looking then I guess a male.
Posted: 05/26/12, 06:39:34
@Brick you know I do.
Posted: 05/26/12, 07:09:29
@Davoid

And in return?
Posted: 05/26/12, 07:57:02
@Brick, your first born kid or anything that is female & has a dreamworld ability. That... or nothing, I don't mind, really.
Posted: 05/26/12, 08:08:52
What's a dreamworld ability?
Posted: 05/26/12, 08:10:51
Awwww baby, Pokemans is going places. It's probably gonna look like that - no way they made all those cool models just for that shitty 3D Pokedex.
Posted: 05/26/12, 18:21:24  - Edited by 
 on: 05/26/12, 18:22:43
Brick said:
What's a dreamworld ability?
-I suppose you are not joking...
A dreamworld ability(or Hidden Ability) is an ability only a Pokémon caught in the Dreamworld can have.

A Sableye, for example, can usually only have "Keen eye" or "Stall" as an ability. If caught in the Dream World, he could have "Trickster". What's better, this ability can be passed on to childs if the Pokémon having the ability is female. The Dream World ability vary from Pokémon to Pokémon. Some don't have any.

Have a look here for the list of Hidden Abilities.
Posted: 05/26/12, 19:26:05
@Davoid

I was wondering what Hidden Ability meant when I saw it on Serebii, but didn't really bother to look deeper. I hardly go to the Dream World.
Posted: 05/27/12, 04:43:54
@Brick, just tell me when.
Posted: 05/28/12, 00:53:49
@Davoid

I'll get on now if you're ready?

This Vullaby doesn't have any nickname though does it? The last ones you gave me were OK since I wasn't planning on using them, but I want to use this.

I don't really have anything special to trade for it though, unless you want a Rufflet for it.
Posted: 05/28/12, 03:32:12
I have it. Do you have time for it on Moday, @Brick?
Posted: 05/28/12, 09:48:49
@Davoid

Are you available at the time of this post?
Posted: 05/29/12, 03:48:47
I am now.
Posted: 05/29/12, 05:08:20
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