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Sonic Mania Discussion (Nintendo Switch) [game]
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Welcome to the official discussion thread for Sonic Mania on the Switch!
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2D Sonic is back in an all-new adventure!Play as Sonic, Tails, & Knuckles as you race through all-new Zones and fully re-imagined classics, each filled with exciting surprises and powerful bosses. Harness Sonic's new Drop Dash, Tails' flight, and Knuckles' climbing abilities to overcome the evil Dr. Eggman's robots. Discover a myriad of never-before-seen hidden paths and secrets! Developed by Christian Whitehead, Headcannon, and PagodaWest Games in collaboration with SEGA of America, this all-new experience celebrates the best of Classic Sonic, pushing the envelope forward with stunning 60 FPS gameplay and pixel-perfect physics. Welcome to the next level for the world's fastest blue hedgehog. Welcome to Sonic Mania. URL to share (right click and copy)
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08/14/17, 20:54 Edited: 08/14/17, 21:02
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@GameDadGrantI think you're attributing way too much passion to my original post. I am tired of Negative World being, uh, negative when it comes to Sonic, but I'm not mad about it or anything. It's just day 1400 at Negative World to see you guys trotting out arguments about Sonic punishing you for going fast - an issue I never had with Sonic for reasons I explained in my post. But you know I'm not mad at anyone. @nate38My honest opinion on Sonic vs. Mario is that Mario is clearly better in retrospect, though I think the cumulative effect of Sonic 1, 2, 3 and Knuckles is a strong counter to Super Mario World (and Yoshi's Island if you want to count it) during that generation. The key to me is that Sonic was different from your standard platformer from the era and that was a good thing. But of course it wasn't on the same level as Mario. Nothing is.* @DrFinkelsteinYeah, I'm probably going to pick it up. I'm still phasing out gaming from my life, but I get the feeling that Sonic Mania is the type of game I'd play even if I hadn't been playing games for many years. That game's been a very long time coming. *except DKC:TF |
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@kriswright I was actually considering saying something similar in here, though you probably worded it better. While I may not be big into Sonic, I don't think it's because there is something "wrong" with them. They're well-made, with quality design, or at least the ones are on Genesis. I can't really speak for most of the rest, having not played most of them. I also think it's harder to see in hindsight the impact that certain games had for their time, and the speed of Sonic games is something that was impressive for the early 90s. I can say that, much as I like Super Mario World, I don't think it did a good job showing off the capabilities of the SNES in the way that Sonic showed what the Genesis could do. On that note, I don't like this idea that there is a "correct" and "incorrect" way to create a game. I feel like this kind of thinking eventually leads to stifling creativity and will ultimately result in very homogenous games, similar to the AAA market. But that's probably a discussion for a different thread, hee hee. @nate38 Freedom Planet was in one of the Humble Bundles for Nintendo systems, which is how I got it for free. And I'm glad I did, as I found the game to be quite the stinker, personally. |
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@ShadowlinkRight. I agree with the assessment of those two games you mention, as well. Both are potentially great, depending on how you feel about a controversial central mechanic. It's fair for someone to say those games don't work or that they just don't like them, but I hate it when they try to appeal to some unwritten Laws of Game Design to prove that the game is objectively bad. Particularly when it's a game that's well-loved by millions, like the original Genesis Sonic games or Majora's Mask. Obviously there is a slippery slope here. Some games ARE just badly designed - things like Anubis II or E.T. or whatever. But a game like Sonic clearly isn't fundamentally broken in that way. As for Sonic Mania - I picked it up and burned through a few levels and, yeah... probably already the best Sonic game I've played since Sonic and Knuckles. Or, at least, second only to Generations, which I felt was really great (though I shockingly enjoyed the 3D parts even more than the 2D ones). I think Mania probably takes the crown from Sonic 2 as the best game to start a new player with Sonic. It's really that good. If you never understood the appeal of Sonic, then this is a good place to start. And, hey, only 20 bucks. Not much to lose. |
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@ZeroEh, feelings are only in your head. You say it feels wrong, I say it doesn't? Who's right? Neither of us. But if neither of us is right, then it kinda proves the point that there's no "Rules of Game Design" being violated. So that's only in your head, too. ...Oh snap. I sound all philosophical like JKR. I'll stop. Anyway, I get why you feel that way about me quitting gaming. You don't understand how serious I am about it and then you see me playing Sonic Mania and you think, "This guy is quitting gaming... yeah right. All it will take is one Mario Odyssey and he's back." But not this time. The problem is I never sat down and finished that review of Breath of the Wild, which explains my feelings about the whole matter. As I've mentioned before, the goal isn't to renounce gaming and become a teetotaller who condemns it. A guy can retire from playing basketball in the NBA and still shoot a game of hoops with his buddies by the garage every now and then. That's more the metaphor. I may play a game or two every now and then. But I'm done keeping up with gaming. I'm done with the culture of gaming. I'm done buying new consoles. I'm done keeping up with the arms race. I'm done stockpiling cartridges in my closet. In fact, I've already got plans tonight to record a game session with my brother-in-law while we test a bunch of cartridges earmarked for eBay to see if they work. So the sell-off is already in progress, it's just slow because I've got a daughter and can't devote all my time to this sort of thing. |
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I just beat Sonic Mania. Twice. I got the "bad" ending (the typical "TRY AGAIN" for not getting all seven chaos emeralds) with only four emeralds, and I really didn't think I was on the last stage. It was a long game (twelve zones, each with two stages), but it never felt like it dragged out.
So I went back to a quick bonus stage farming point repeatedly (Chemical Plant 1, get to the first four-way and go left) to get the last three. The only bonus stage I had lots of trouble on was the fifth. With that done, I beat the Titanic Monarch Zone again, proceeded to the real final boss(es), and closed it out.
Deaths never felt cheap, and my typical rewards for speed was something nice, like an elemental shield, rings, an extra life, or a bonus stage. The controls were tighter than I remember Sonic being in the past (and they were good back on the Genesis). All in all, I felt like I was playing a very polished Genesis game. This might be the best Sonic ever made. Definitely the best one since Sonic & Knuckles. |
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