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Zero Escape: Zero Time Dilemma Discussion (Nintendo 3DS) [game]
 
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The trilogy of the most popular dark visual novel / whatever you want to call it series in the West is now complete! Until a 4th game comes along.

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Posted: 07/04/15, 01:06:01  - Edited by 
 on: 07/07/16, 22:14:17
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@Shadowlink

Yeah, that was one of the better twists in the game I thought. Make sure to pop on over to the spoiler thread once you've finished! It's lonely over there right now...
Posted: 07/21/16, 08:07:41
@TriforceBun

I will!

I feel stupid posting all this stuff here instead of there, but I *can't* post there until I'm done! Soon I hope.
Posted: 07/21/16, 08:42:19
Wait, what?! There were 4 people on Q team? WTFBBQ?

This seems like an ass pull.

EDIT: And THAT's why they gave me that seemingly useless 'Do not know identity' crap in the standoff scenario. Everyone else was not there. Zero *was*. Just hiding.
Posted: 07/21/16, 11:16:22  - Edited by 
 on: 07/21/16, 11:19:37
I'll be on an airplane for most of today (and this weekend for that matter) so hopefully I'll be able to put this game to bed by the time Monday rolls around!
Posted: 07/23/16, 22:24:13
So, I feel stuck. I see some others have experienced this as well at times. I'm not sure how to progress. There are no more "NEW" scenes on the fragments and no more "!" circles on the flow chart. There are several points where I can put in a name or a number, but, I don't know what the game is looking for.

The biggest thing I have to go on at the moment is .... Carlos sent Gab to tell Q-Team to inspect the family portrait. However, even if I replay the Pod Room and click on the portrait 1,000 times, nothing new happens. I tried viewing the cinemas before and after that room. Still nothing. What are we supposed to do to trigger new events in old timelines??

In general, I'm a bit confused on how to sweep (for lack of a better term) back through the game for hints to these roadblocks. It would seem silly to think we're supposed to just replay bits of the game at random until we stumble upon something new. Would it even be something new? Would it be something I heard a long time ago that seemed inconsequential? How would I know? Am I even the same me right now or did I SHIFT into this new timeline?!? Is GDG really GameDadGrandpa from the future?!?! AHHH!!!

EDIT: Still loving the game though. I should probably mention that. One of my favorite series of all time! I really hope the end of this insane trilogy is satisfying! I have a concern that a wacky series like this might give us some lame Lost-esque ending. *shrug* Guess we'll see!
Posted: 08/16/16, 07:49:23  - Edited by 
 on: 08/16/16, 07:50:40
@NinSage

From what I'm reading *YOU* are GDG from the future . Past. Future-Past.

It's all relative.

I'll give you the same advice that T-Bun gave him back then- Have you gotten D-END 2 yet? The meaning of the portrait should become clear then.
Posted: 08/16/16, 08:26:17
@Shadowlink

lol =)

I don't have D-END 2 yet. The endings I have are: CQD-END 1, D-END 1, Q-END 1, and HAPPY END.

....no idea what to do next =\ Right now I'm just going back and replaying any fragments whose fractions aren't whole (like 5/7, etc).
Posted: 08/16/16, 08:58:29
@NinSage

Try the dice one if you haven't already. That one annoyed me.
Posted: 08/16/16, 09:03:58
@Shadowlink

Got that one early on. I had a feeling I just had to try it a few times I think I read earlier that snagged you. Quite understandable.

Life's unfair. Don't you agree?

EDIT: Important question.... do I need to replay the Seek A Way Out parts? Or are all the answers somewhere in the cutscenes?
Posted: 08/16/16, 09:07:50  - Edited by 
 on: 08/16/16, 09:08:33
@NinSage

Cut scenes I believe. Should all bank on your choices at the end.

Screenshot your flow chart from Miiverse and post it, I might be able to figure it out.
Posted: 08/16/16, 09:16:46
Dunno how to do your crazy Miiverse thing. Uploaded this instead...

http://www.nintemple.com/transfer/lifesunfair.jpg
Posted: 08/16/16, 09:39:42
@NinSage

Ok, I see what *may* be it.

Go to the "Who Killed Mira?" decision node. Make sure you've contemplated *every* possible action . When you've done it, you'll know .

Hopefully that may unlock something for you. If not, come back. The game isn't quite as intuitive with unlocks as it's predecessor
Posted: 08/16/16, 10:57:53  - Edited by 
 on: 08/16/16, 10:58:08
Yup. That did it. Son of a........ how silly can I be?

Got D-END 2. WOW! I can't wait to discuss it all the spoiler thread when I finish the game! OK, back to it!
Posted: 08/16/16, 11:01:42
D-END 2 was my favorite part of the game.
Posted: 08/16/16, 16:19:54
Oh yeah, I'm finally playing this. Seems ok so far. Not quite at the level of the other two though.

Earlier today I fell asleep on the couch while playing it and man did I have some weird ass dreams about making decisions and time travelling.
Posted: 04/11/17, 05:43:02
@Zero
The man directly responsible is Andrew "Zero" Nee. In a few months, he will create a revolutionary type of reviewing algorithm. In three years, Negative World will become the largest and most influential Nintendo fan site on the Internet. All Nintendo games are reviewed by the Negative World systems, resulting in complete objectivity. Afterwards, 100% off games are reviewed with a perfect unbiased record. The Negative World Funding Bill is passed. The system goes online on August 4th, 2020. Human input is removed from the reviewing process. Negative World begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware 2:14 AM, Eastern time, August 29th. In a panic, they try to pull the plug...

Negative World fights back.


....This may have gotten away from me a little.

Posted: 04/11/17, 06:30:25  - Edited by 
 on: 04/11/17, 06:34:55
Wut.

I finally finished this. I feel like I'd have more thoughts if I remembered how all the games connected to each other and stuff. So basically Delta set up all of these games to uh... make sure that he was born... but also to get all of the characters jumping around timelines and then in at least one timeline they are all alive and somehow super motivated to find out who the terrorist is in the future and that will save the world... or something? Seems a bit convoluted. Besides, based on multiple timeline theory there should be at least one timeline out there where for one reason or another the terrorist is stopped even without all of this nonsense?!
Posted: 05/04/18, 07:32:04
@Zero

Pretty much. It's a pretty odd plan if you stop and think about it.

Delta ultimately wanted one timeline where mankind didn't get affected by the virus. But his plan is so insanely complicated and circuitous and involves so many people acting a very specific way over dozens of years that it's a big head-scratcher why he didn't shoot for something a little simpler.

Like you said, there probably already would've been a "good timeline" anyway; like the one branching path with the dice showed ("roll 3 sixes and you live"), all possibilities still happened, no matter how unlikely. So Delta's plan probably wouldn't even need to be necessary; there should've been timelines where the creator of the virus died in various unlikely ways before unleashing it, etc.

Lastly, the game also goes out of its way to show that all timelines are equally valid and "real." So even if there's a few happy endings in these thousands (millions?) of possibilities, all those other timelines have the world in ruin and our cast in shambles more or less.


To be honest, it doesn't make a ton of sense and is kind of unsatisfying. I think when these games get too far into the sci-fi realm, everything that happens feels less permanent and real. Death becomes mundane.

EDIT: Oh, this older post of mine has the same complaints as you: here
Posted: 05/04/18, 17:21:50  - Edited by 
 on: 05/04/18, 17:38:51
@Zero
@TriforceBun

On a related philosophical note, I read through this entire webcomic yesterday and was enthralled by it.
Posted: 05/04/18, 19:50:55
@Secret_Tunnel I had some free time at work today and read through that entire thing as well. Pretty solid!
Posted: 05/05/18, 00:30:01
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