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Fire Emblem Fates: Birthright Discussion (Nintendo 3DS) [game]
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06/17/15, 18:26 Edited: 06/17/15, 18:30
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@Mr_MustacheI was operating off of the information that I had. I also mentioned the possibility that the article may have left out homosexual relationships. Instead of painting the frustration as hairtrigger outrage for outrage's sake, try viewing media from the perspective of someone who has lived as real and as emotionally impactful a life as you have, but is also different in some way. It's easy to say that people are quick to point the finger or are looking to be outraged, but all that does is invalidate their feelings and make their frustration less important or real than those you deem to be more patient (presumably including yourself). Imagine what it would be like for large parts of the population of your country to tell you that you have no right to marry the woman you want to marry just because she is a woman. That they tell you that you are going to burn in hell because you love her. People protest similar weddings frequently and it takes years of legal battles for the government to acknowledge your marriage at all. The name of your relationship is used as an insult, your masculinity is questioned for loving women, and people refer to you with hateful slurs. There is resistance to even mention the idea that a man can love a woman in school and you are ostracized from your religion because you love a woman, regardless of how pious or faithful to your religion that you may be. So you seek solace and escape from this unwelcoming world by playing video games, but they offer no escape. Every time you see a man become romantically involved with a woman in a game it fails to portray the real relationship or even outright insults and ridicules the very notion that such a relationship would exist. It treats the idea as alien and unnatural- as if a man thinking he loves a woman is some sort of mistake or betrayal of his most basic instincts. On top of that, they use negative stereotypes and are unfaithful to real people who seek those relationships, and even though you know they aren't true plenty of people in the real world are still using those unreliable portrayals as the basis for their evaluation of your sexuality. There is no escape from the hatred and toxicity. But when you try to speak out against this and try to change the situation, you're told by people who have never experienced the same hatred that you have that you're being ridiculous- that things are fine. They pick apart your suggestions and tell you that you're just making things up or are looking for a reason to be upset. But those people have no idea what it's like to face the hostility that you have- they have never been told that they are wrong for loving who they do or that they're defying their god's natural order. They have a wide selection of representations in media to choose from and their sexuality has been considered the default for thousands of years. But here they are telling you how to respond to and handle your marginalization. They have no idea what it is like to experience that kind of hate but they are telling you that you are wrong for being upset about it. Can you imagine how frustrating and painful that must be? |
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@gojiraI know, it's sad as heck. @Hero_Of_HyruleThe people that say you're going to burn in Hell are like "all religions;" I've never personally told anyone they're going to burn in hell. My porn intake probably has my ticket punched already, so thats sad, but yeah. I try to be the best guy I can outside of that, including (but not limited to) holding the door and being nice to everyone I can in public. (Not like "Rip Taylor throwing confetti" nice, but yeah.) Anyway, religion: does anyone remember The Crusades? Pretty sure that was a far worse situation than what we're dealing with here. YES, I read everything you wrote, and that sucks, sure; nearly everything you're describing is how I'm treated here day after day. NO, not nearly to the extent that the folks in your example are, but here a) my ideas are always wrong, b) I'm told how horrible my viewpoints are, c) when I try to assimilate, I'm often the topic of a "let's change the subject" instead of being allowed to have a full, complete conversation like everyone else is, d) I gotta make a separate thread to talk about sports with other like-minded people, and when it leaks into other threads people make fun of it, e) I'm dumped on because I don't want a handheld. Just think how easy things would be for the gay community if they would simply be straight? See how dumb that sounds?? Again, let's be clear; they obviously have it worse. Not sure how that Fire Emblem Support System ranks though. @StephenWhy do you feel like an ignorant asshole? @gojiraI'm disappointed by the huge lead time Japan has with TONS of stuff. Their Club Nintendo prizes are (were) recycled for us a year later. Haha, what the heck? @GameDadGrantNo thanks. See above. |
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