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Fire Emblem Fates: Birthright Discussion (Nintendo 3DS) [game]
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Posted: 06/17/15, 18:26:53  - Edited by 
 on: 06/17/15, 18:30:19
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In White/Black Night is the literal translation. The names for us Westerners are Hoshido(White) and Nohr(Black). Not even the weebs use White/Black night. Hoshido is possibly a combination of Hoshi meaning star or Shiro meaning white in Japanese and bushido, the samurai code of chivalry, to match the Japan theme of the country. Nohr appears to be a deformation of the french word Noir meaning Black. This refers back to Nohr's other name, the Black Kingdom.
Posted: 06/25/15, 08:44:57
I may actually be more interested in the Fire Emblem 0 card game that's releasing alongside the game in Japan than FE Fates itself. It's unlikely this ever leaves Japan, but who knows.

Trading card games do really well on tablets and mobile devices, maybe this is the kind of thing Nintendo could bring to its offerings on iOS and Android.
Posted: 06/25/15, 16:35:51  - Edited by 
 on: 06/25/15, 16:36:32
Zero said:
To be honest I'm pretty surprised they not only reacted so quickly (this is clearly a response to the Tomodochi Life thing)

Yeah, it'd be hard to see how this wouldn't be a response to that. The public was pretty "loud" about that.

Pokefreak911 said:
Yeah. FFT Advance was way more approachable to me than FFT for some reason, probably the setting and stuff. I'd love something like that for Fire Emblem, a game which changes up the setting and stuff.

Have Fire Emblem games been non-approachable to you in the past? I've found that series does a really good job slowly introducing the player to the characters and combat and such. Not at all intimidating.
Posted: 06/25/15, 21:54:16
@gojira I'm not sure if it was called "if" with the initial announcement. I just saw that they were called White/Black Kingdom on GameFAQs, and I thought GF used only "official" sources for their entries, but maybe not. We can always change the subtitles later if they become something else. Sorry for complicating things, I'll try to be more careful checking for database entries in the future.
Posted: 06/25/15, 22:07:06
@Mop it up

The names I've seen online is Birthright for White and Conquest for Black. White/Black Kingdom is the literal translation. But I guess it also means Birthright and Conquest. Maybe 8-4 Play will explain when they talk about the game.


I think a lot of people find perma-death and the inability to permanently save mid-battle hard to overcome. Turning off perma-death was only introduced in Awakening. A full mid-battle save option didn't show up until fairly recently as well. Was it Radiant Dawn that first had it?

Anyway, the first FFT had perma-death as well. It was also super hard unless you knew what you were doing (i.e. played the game before or read a FAQ).

FFTA removed perma-death for the most part and was way much more approachable. The story was much simpler. FFT's story was so full of back stabbing and who's using who, I didn't know what was going on.
Posted: 06/25/15, 22:49:33  - Edited by 
 on: 06/25/15, 22:58:17
Posted: 06/27/15, 06:09:53
Yeah I remember hearing about the Fire Emblem Pokemon-amie thing, but it's really weird with people vs. pets. I liked Awakening's relationship system, but it sounds like they're taking it to a kind of dumb and tacky extreme.
Posted: 06/27/15, 06:24:23
Zero said:
@Secret_Tunnel What the heck is an all-white kingdom!? The existence of an all-white kingdom is more offensive than anything Nintendo could come up with to diversify.

Hmph, guess we know who turned out to be right in the end after all...!
Posted: 06/27/15, 07:04:48
@Secret_Tunnel Who?! I don't remember the context for that.
Posted: 06/27/15, 07:22:00

lol, it was back when the Mario Kart 8 "why are all the humans white?" thing was happening. I said that maybe the Mushroom Kingdom is an "all-white kingdom," you said that doesn't make any sense, and now every time I see the title of this Fire Emblem game that's what I think of.
Posted: 06/27/15, 08:27:04

Hmm... I didn't think of it in that way at all. Nintendo is probably going to go with Birthright/Conquest.
Posted: 06/27/15, 17:06:58
I think he's just playing around, since Fates has a "white" Kingdom and a "black" Kingdom. Not in the race sense of the word, though.
Posted: 06/27/15, 19:54:22

Whose idea was that? I get the sense they haven't been working on FE for very long. I cant believe something like that is coming from the same series as Path of Radiance.
Posted: 06/28/15, 00:08:50

Still I'm sure if that idea pops up at all at NOA they'll probably steer away from White/Black Kingdom.
Posted: 06/28/15, 16:17:41

Ha ha, that's awesome.


I know, right? They sure have come a long way!
Posted: 06/29/15, 18:30:03
Posted: 07/03/15, 16:31:48
I think it's quite possible they'll localize that shit out before releasing it here.
Posted: 07/03/15, 16:32:52
True, but that doesn't mean they didn't screw it all up to begin with.
Posted: 07/03/15, 16:34:27
Okay, apparently it's already been debunked?

I should have known. ibtimes is the worst kind of shit.
Posted: 07/03/15, 16:46:31  - Edited by 
 on: 07/03/15, 16:47:04
@Guillaume It hasn't really been debunked per se from what I'm reading. It's still a pretty problematic storyline. Girl fakes bisexuality to get back at her dad then kind of likes it and can't be around cute girls without fainting so some guy gives her a potion without her consent to make her see men as women and vice versa and man... this whole thing is messy.

Like yeah that article I linked misrepresents a bit... but some people will take issue with this regardless. It's using lesbianism / bisexuality in a very flighty way and falling into some bad tropes (lesbians / bisexuals are really just straight people mad at their parents!) along the ways.
Posted: 07/03/15, 16:52:01  - Edited by 
 on: 07/03/15, 16:54:10
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