@Xbob42

Did you play Armored Edition? I don't think the combat is faster _at all_. Feels EXACTLY the same.

I WILL say that the "cover song" thing that someone said feels kinda accurate. I'm not sure exactly what it is, but something feels..slightly off about it. Not gamebreaking by any means, no, but the way the camera hugged Batman a few times for me was confusing, and it has been a little jukey for me early on. Also, I had it freeze on me last night. Yup. Night One, already got a freeze. *sigh* I think MiiVerse functionality is all F'd up, too. I have it set to automaticalyl post messages based on my accomplishments (default) or something; someone let me know if they're terrible and spoiling the entire game for you.

And my packed in Deathstroke DLC doesn't work (YET, BETTER BE "YET")


--Oh, and I'm 11% done with this game. Take that, Enigma Relays!

@Mr_Mustache
I promise you he didn't play Armored Edition. Especially if I didn't, and I completed adored Arkham City and I'm a brave Wii U warrior. Framerate disappointed me completely.

I don't own a Wii U, so no, I didn't play Armored Edition, but I doubt the combat would be much faster since Armored Edition ran at like 6 FPS. Unless Origins also runs slow. The combat is absolutely faster. Like, at least 20% faster if not more, if I were to try and pin a percentage on it.

Also, the Death Stroke fight already topped the "batcave on Arkham Island" or the "shark in the water" moments that one of the reviews mentioned. A little QTE heavy, perhaps, but it's a QTE for a move that is already a QTE, the counter! It's a great counter-counter fight that's super exciting to play. A little easy even on hard, but a blast to play out.

I did play Armored Edition and the Wii U version of Origins does seem to run better to me. I played about an hour last night and while it's definitely more of the same, it's still a lot of fun.

@Xbob42

I dunno. Game feels exactly the same to me in the combat department.

--My, spoilers run heavy early, I guess. I'll need to temper my readage for next time..

I'm about 15% done, and I've barely advanced the story. I've just triangulatred Penguin's position.

@DeputyVanHalen
This I need to know more of.

If it runs well I will get it.

@carlosrox

Don't ask me; I apparently missed how terribly Arkham City ran when I played it for hours and hours and rated it highly.

@Mr_Mustache
Some people are really sensitive to things like a choppy framerate or screen tearing and others aren't. Uncharted 1 is one of my favorite games of all time but it had horrible screen tearing, obviously it would have been better without it but I still loved the game.

I do love a game with good craftsmanship though, it seems very rare these days to have a game like Metroid Prime which runs at a smooth 60 FPS and has zero graphical glitches or flaws.

@deathly_hallows

I don't know what "screen tearing" is. Stupid other consoles creating terms for crap.

--Have you ever heard of "vocal fry?" Another term that didn't need to be invented -- like "manscaping."

@deathly_hallows Except when your game freezes up on the elevators.

Actually though my game only froze twice? the entire way through, while I heard other people had it freeze upwards of 10, 20 times.

@Mr_Mustache Consoles didn't create these terms, these are standard tech terms. Screen tearing is fairly complex sounding when described, when the GPU and a monitor's refresh cycle get out of sync, (rather, the GPU has sent out another frame to be displayed when the previous one wasn't finished displaying yet, so you have two or more images being displayed piecemeal, typically when the GPU is sending frames too quickly for the monitor to keep up with, but there are many causes) but the result is easily visible and understandable to all:



As the image refreshes, parts of the screen simply aren't aligned properly. While some people aren't bothered by it (It has only bothered me personally in Bioshock on the PC, where it's REALLY REALLY bad and you literally can't see what's going on when you move your camera so you NEED vsync turned on to make sure it doesn't happen.) it can actually make some ill and for others too much of it can be a game breaker.

It's really the same with framerate, if you're not sensitive to it it's no big deal, but if you are it can be really jarring and make gameplay feel a lot less smooth and fun.

If you saw, for example, the Wii U version of Arkham City (Origins probably runs much better, City was just dumped unceremoniously on the console.) next to a 60+FPS version, you'd absolutely notice a difference. Whether you'd care or not is a different story, but you'd absolutely notice the difference in smoothness.

@Mr_Mustache
I'm sure you would know what screen tearing is if you saw it, it happens a lot in Super Mario Galaxy, but not nearly as much as Uncharted, that game is screen-tear city.

I've never heard of vocal fry or manscaping and I'm not sure I want to...

EDIT: Xbob explained it better!

@Zero
I've beat that game like 6 times and it's never froze on me! Weird! I didn't know that was a problem. Something froze on me the other day though... what was it... ah I think it was Killzone on the Vita, I lost like 20 minutes of progress!

@Xbob42
@deathly_hallows

Ehhh, I dunno, I've seen some of that lately. I do believe a lot of it had to do with MiiVerse not working properly.

OH, and my download code DID go through yesterday after failing numerous times on Thursday Night.

--This Season Pass thing...do I REALLY need it? I already have the Deathstroke Challenge.
Can I EARN no new Batman gear from beating the game?? Is all just buy, buy, BUY now?


Man, those were the days (like a year ago on Ninja Gaiden..).



Vocal Fry: That stupid thing that teenage girls / KARDASHIANS do to end a sentence. "Thats hottt."
Manscaping: horrible, horrible shaving of men to push them closer to femininity. See: eyebrow shaping on DUDES.

No, you don't need the Season Pass, it's just additional content. The base game has everything you need. If previous Batman games are any indication, the DLC will mostly just be little extra challenges, some costumes for Batman and perhaps a playable character or two. Shouldn't be any new gadgets at all because the gadgets are integral to the story.

Season Pass just means you'll get all the major DLC as it comes out, rather than buying it individually, if you didn't already know that. It's basically for huge fans of the game who want any new little piece of content, rather than the averages joes.

@Xbob42

I would have Season Pass for Monster Hunter 3 U. What a great game. (and all of their DLC was freeeeeeeeeeeee.)

Yup, some games --typically ones that don't have $200 trillion budgets so they can actually make a profit of selling their game instead of a bunch of additional stuff-- still give free DLC! The Witcher 2 in particular was really great with that.

I bought the Season Pass for The Last of Us, because I know I will definitely want all of the extra content. Damn I simply cannot wait for the additional single-player/story stuff.

The one thing stopping me from playing City and Origins is they seem to big. One thing I loved about Asylum was how concise it was. I will ALWAYS prefer a smaller condensed world to a larger one.

They're not really all that big. There's a lot of Riddler stuff out in the city, but there's plenty of indoors stuff that's just like Asylum in all of them.