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Rate your current level of gaming fandom, on a scale of 1 to 10! [poll] [roundtable]
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10 (3/38 votes) |
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9 (12/38 votes) |
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8 (5/38 votes) |
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7 (7/38 votes) |
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6 (4/38 votes) |
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5 (3/38 votes) |
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4 (2/38 votes) |
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1 (0/38 votes) |
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@New Forms I don't take a pass on them, I play tons of indie games... well, on my Nintendo / Sony platforms, for now, so my indie game possibilities are a bit more limited than PC gamers, but I still have plenty to play. And certain games like Braid, World of Goo, BIT.TRIP RUNNER, Cave Story, Guacamelee!, Little Inferno, VVVVVV, Shantae: Risky's Revenge, Journey and Pushmo (not technically indie, but indie in spirit) are some of my favorite games in recent years. But still, bigger budget games scratch a different itch, and I feel like we're not getting enough variety there. It's like... short stories are nice, but sometimes you want a big, thick novel to get into. And I'm not happy with the state of the novels right now. Metaphorically speaking. |
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@Jargon Probably about similar, I guess? Although Lemmings did have 125 stages. Hmm. The thing is, I enjoyed the way the scope of games got bigger over the years. Well... as long as the games in question are full of quality content and not just filler junk. On the 2D side indie games have done an ok job of keeping up, although I think they often limit what they can do based on their own weaknesses... for instance, few indie developers seem capable of super tight controls so few ever try to pull off a game to rival Mario. And scopewise, when you play something like Donkey Kong Country Returns it is tough to imagine an indie team ever pulling anything like that off on their own, it just feels grander than any indie platformer has felt. Some of that is just the production, but hey, production helps. It's mostly on the 3D side though that I think indie games just aren't generally competing with the bigger budget games. You're just not going to see an indie game that rivals a new 3D Mario, Zelda, for non-Nintendo gamers I dunno... Elder Scrolls, Grand Theft Auto, Uncharted, whatever. I don't even think you will see many indie games rivaling the middle-budget 3D games like Persona 4, No More Heroes, Valkyria Chronicles, Sin & Punishment, whatever. I may eat my words someday, but I feel pretty safe saying that for now. There is a real reason why so many indies stick to 2D or limited scope 3D. |
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@Secret_Tunnel No you're right, comparing indie games to the SNES is probably somewhat accurate, although even then I wouldn't say that I've played a single indie game that rivals the best... Chrono Trigger, Yoshi's Island, Mega Man X, etc. on every level. But that's the thing, indie games really only stand up to games from bigger developers in 2D (and even this I think is partially due to the fact that so many bigger developers all but abandoned 2D.) There are some neat 3D indie games, but it's tough for me to put them at the same level as the best 3D games. Mind you, I haven't played too many 3D indie games, so I could be missing some stuff. Still though, it seems the scope is often severely limited. Journey, for instance, is a pretty neat game for what it is, but it has a very, very limited scope. And I'm not sure if that technically counts as indie since Sony pumped a ton of money into it. |
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Would the types of mid-tier diversity I'm looking for really be represented? Because one thing I'd like to see more of, for instance, is more quality 3D platformers, and that doesn't seem like something PCs get exclusive very often. Another thing I'd like to see more of is more arcade-based 3D flight shooters like Ace Combat, Starfox, Sin & Punishment, etc. and although PC seems to get a lot of flight shooters, they seem to be more sim-based to me. And another thing that seems to have all but disappeared is the mid-tier quirky Japanese hard-to-pigeon-hole-into-a-genre game. I'd also like to see more 2D games with the scope of something like New Super Mario Bros. or Donkey Kong Country Returns, and I just don't see that much of anywhere.
I could be mistaken on what exists on PC, but when I look at Gamerankings and such over the last few years, I don't really see much of anything that looks like what I'm looking for. I'm basically looking for the kind of thing that used to exist more on consoles and does not anymore, and I don't think PCs have really stepped up and taken over that type of game outside of smaller-scoped 2D stuff, for the most part. |
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