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Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury Discussion (Nintendo Switch) [game]
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02/10/21, 18:59 |
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Just beat Bowser's Fury! It's exactly what it says on the tin: a huge new Mario Odyssey level, but with 3D World movement and obstacles. And it's great! Short and sweet enough to replay for the rest of your life without getting sick of it.
And 3D World itself is awesome too. It was really a victim of timing when it first came out on the heels of New Super Mario Bros., New Super Mario Bros. Wii, New Super Mario Bros. 2, Super Mario 3D Land, New Super Mario Bros. U, and New Super Luigi U. That's a lot of traditional linear modern art Mario! And Galaxy 2 came out only a few years prior too!
Everyone was a little insecure and skeptical about the Wii U, so what we really wanted at the time was Super Mario Universe. The next BIG thing for Mario. So 3D World being yet another game in the vein of what we'd been getting every couple years for a decade was pretty underwhelming.
But now that it's been seven years since the game came out and we now have Odyssey to fill that void, it's great going back to 3D World! It really is the pinnacle of that era of Mario. It's a lot more magical than I remember. Lots of pretty little musical cues, barely any text at all.
I replayed Galaxy when 3D All-Stars came out, and that game is beautiful, of course, but... am I the only one who thinks it's kinda slow? Mario's moveset feels constrained, and a lot of levels are based around waiting for moving platforms to align properly. It's still great, but if you'd asked me a year ago, I'd have said that Galaxy is easily leagues better than 3D World, but after replaying both games... 3D World still has awesome gameplay, and it's more magical than I remembered. Galaxy is still magical, but it's less fun than I remembered. I think I'd put them at about the same level!
(I only got about 60 stars when I replayed Galaxy though. I forgot how many stars in that game are just trickster comets! Everyone always said that Galaxy 2 is so much better than Galaxy 1, which isn't something I ever picked up on when I first played them. Is Galaxy 2 faster?) |
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Yeah, the series was being milked a bit too much for my liking for awhile there. A new Mario game should be a big deal that has been given enough development time and resources to really shine and do new things. While none of those games were bad, the NSMB series especially was on rapid fire, and it was a bit ridiculous that they weren’t even at least trying to keep the production values high considering how many millions of copies those games were selling. Kind of insulting, but the core gameplay and level design were still nice.
I always did like 2D Mario more than 3D overall, so I really dig 3D Land and World for blending the best of the two styles together and giving you focused, linear platforming fun. It’s like what I imagine Nintendo would have done with Mario 64 if they weren’t facing the technical limitations of that hardware that forced them to cleverly reuse levels with different objectives. I’d probably rank 3D World as my favorite of the 3D games with the exception of Galaxy 1 and 2 (which are also pretty linear and focused on platforming design). I still enjoy 64, Sunshine, and Odyssey a lot though, so there’s room for all of these styles in my life! Keeps the series interesting when they keep doing new things, so I welcome that. |
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