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Super Smash Bros. for Wii U on the Wii U
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Welcome to the official discussion thread for Super Smash Bros. for Wii U on the Wii U!

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Every new generation a great dawn emerges where a new game in the acclaimed Super Smash Bros. series graces Nintendo's newest consoles… for the Wii U, that time is almost upon us. Nintendo is truly pulling out all the stops with this one. Here's the breakdown on what we can expect… (Learn more at the Super Smash Bros. website.)

1.) 45+ playable characters (new characters, returning fighters, or accessible via alt costumes)
2.) Releasing November 21st, November 28th, or December 5th depending on your region
3.) Tons of content; from trophies to levels to music tracks to items to pokemon to modes… it seemingly never ends!
4.) Customizable Move-sets
5.) Many control setups; Wii U Gamepad, standard Wii U options, Gamecube controllers, even your 3DS!
6.) Online capable (and encouraged)
7.) Check out Nintendo's 50 Things You Should Know about Smash Bros!
8.) Stages exclusive to the Wii U version. Some epic stages!
9.) Amiibo Support for all existing Amiibos
10.) Gameplay lands somewhere between Melee and Brawl


As you can see, there really is something for everyone, perhaps more than ever before. As I wrote this whole post up, I was listening to the Super Smash Bros. Brawl soundtrack and remembering the hours and days and weeks and months of fun I've had with that game. This will be no different and really will shake the Wii U community up in the best ways. Nintendo is on the eve of quite possible the most acclaimed game the console will have. This is a very exciting moment for Nintendo gamers. Speaking back on the music, you can listen to a bunch of neat samples from the upcoming game at the SmashBros.com Music Page. Be sure to check out Kapp'n's Song! It's a personal favorite of mine. The 3DS version is to have two-songs per stage but the Wii U version is meant to have that and more, even some songs from past games as well.

Please enjoy a few of my favorite images found on the official Super Smash Bros. website.



The release date in North America is November 21st and it was just moved up to November 28th in Europe. For all other regions you can expect December 5th. In the mean time, there's always the 3DS version which looks incredible in it's own right! You can discuss it in Jargon's thread here; Super Smash Bros. 3DS. We should aim to keep this thread focused on the Wii U version so that the 3DS discussion ends up in it's right place. Keep in mind that the Daily Updates are still being provided by Sakurai (for a few more weeks at least) and the best place to find and discuss those is Stephen's Super Smash Bros. News Discussion (Roster Spoilers) Now With Daily Images thread. I do my best to update that daily with the Sakurai posts.

Who is your main? What are you most excited for? Finally, be sure to have your friends added on your Wii U! I'll do my best to keep this thread updated with the various users who are playing this online.

Super Smash Bros. for Wii U: The Negative World Roster
NW User Name - Nintendo Network ID - Nickname

DrFinkelstein - a00link - Stephen
ploot - realploot - Pauloot
deathly_hallows - ch_rls - ????
Jargon - Hendrik - Hendrik
chrisguy - chrisguy - ????
Ludist210 - Ludist210 - Lewis
GameDadGrant - GameDadGrant - ????
anon_mastermind - Mastermind85 - ????
VofEscaflowne - VofEscaflowne - ????
kriswright - kriswright - ????
Cryojin - Cryojin - ????
TheOldManFromZelda - OldManFromZelda - ????
Smerd - Smerd20 - ????
achhibbar - achhibbar - ????
Mop it up - Mop_it_up - ????
TheBigG753 - TheBigG753 - Greggy
Cubed777 - C77777 - ????
nate38 - VictorVonPlugman - nate
kgtennispro - kgtennispro - Kenny
chrisbg99 - chrisbg99 - Chris
Brick - Brick20 - Brick
pokepal148 - pokepal148 - ????
PogueSquadron - PogueSquadron - Jamie
Super_Conzo - Super_Conzo - ????
Beardednerd - beardednerd - Dave


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09/15/14, 00:22    Edited: 01/14/15, 13:34
 
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@Jargon Man, I wish you could select some of those changes in standard Smash. Pyrosphere without Ridley, Norfair without lava, and Pokemon Stadium 2 without the treadmills sound like they could be good stages.
02/10/15, 03:50   
I think I'd like Luigi's Mansion more if it could never be destroyed. They should let you toggle that option on. That is, I'm assuming you can't hit it at all. If you could hit it but it just doesn't ever break then that would be even more annoying.

Edit: Woah, jinx.
02/10/15, 03:50   
Edited: 02/10/15, 05:01
@Jargon I would assume the columns are still there, they just don't break. So you could still use them as projectile shields and the like.

I could boot up the game and check right this very moment...but ehh.
02/10/15, 04:52   
You know what? I am SICK of this game's single-player challenges. Most of them are fun, but now that I'm down to 20 or so left, it's really showing how horribly designed they can be, particularly regarding the AI and stuff.

Getting 10 characters at the end of Smash Tour is a nightmare. Any turn can randomly have you step on a trap, dropping 3 or more of your guys at once. Sometimes your opponents will activate a "Knock Your Opponent Away" item when you run into them, making you drop a bunch of fighters as well. It's like having a challenge in Mario Party to win 10 stars in Chance Time. It feels very luck-based.

And speaking of luck-based! "Beat 9.0 without losing a single life"!? Yeah, that challenge can kiss my butt. It's actually not the end boss that's the problem (a souped-up Ganondorf can do well on them), but the junk beforehand. The CPUs clearly team up against you in every battle, barely fighting each other, and they make a mad scramble for all the items. Good luck not dying if one of them happens to grab a Golden Hammer or Lugia-spewing Pokeball, or Dragoon, etc. Oh, and for all their dumb AI, they sure can power-shield and counter with the reflexes of an actual computer. Have fun fighting Ike! Even when you try to fight one guy at a time, they'll often be replaced by an "Intruder" who's Giant or Metal or something, giving you a big disadvantage.

That's not even touching "Clear All-Star on Hard with EVERY CHARACTER." Man, is this one an everlovin' pain times fifty-one. It was bad enough doing this with ONE character. While the AI's attacks are lowered to make it more fair, there's a bug in the game where the AI's projectile attacks still do the same damage and knockback. This means that characters like Olimar (who have only projectile-based moves) are suddenly super-deadly. Also, random weird moves like Ness's Yo-Yo, Charizard's Flare Blitz, and Villager's smashes have huge knockback too. And heaven help you if you get stuck in a stupid crazy stage like the F-Zero one, because all stage hazards are super-deadly as well. Once you finally make it through, have fun doing it again fifty more times! Especially with ol' previously-deadly Olimar, since said bug ALSO affects all of your projectiles not doing as MUCH damage to everyone.

This game has a great fighting system but they still haven't nailed down the 1P. All of these "hard" challenges are little more than an exercise in tedium, frustration, and luck-based hair-pulling. WHY AM I DOING THIS!? Kiss my butt, challenge board! I'm about to hammer the lot of you forever!
03/04/15, 06:34   
TriforceBun said:
I'm about to hammer the lot of you forever!

Ha. I was about to suggest the hammer too. Fuck the Beat All-Star with everyone challenge. Thats a grindy mess.

With the 10 fighters one though, just set up 4 controllers and have 'human' players. I had 3 Wiimotes lined up in front of me and just cycled through them on every turn. A couple of 'A' button presses, and a stab on the D-pad, and you're good to go.
03/04/15, 07:49   
I got lucky and got the 10 Fighters one on my first max-turn run of Smash Tour. But yeah, I've pretty much lost all interest in this game's singleplayer modes, and the challenges are more tedious than fun. Just playing online anymore.
03/04/15, 16:31   
@TriforceBun I feel you. I have four left, which include the 9.0 one life and the all-star on hard with everyone, plus the two grindy ones which I think were collect all hats and collect all of something else (moves maybe?). That's some pretty tedious stuff so I can't be arsed to finish it up. I was hoping they would patch the all-star glitch, but it doesn't seem to be happening. I've already mastered the bosses so completing that 9.0 challenge would just be the luck of the draw in opponents, stages, and items.

It's too bad the custom stuff isn't easier to get because it can be fun to dabble in it.
03/05/15, 00:39   
@Mop it up

Easy to get the bosses on Level 9 without dying with Kirby. Just stone everyone. The CPU sucks at anticipating it.
03/05/15, 00:58   
Edited: 03/05/15, 00:58
@Jargon Interesting choice. I've also heard something about Ness's PK thunder missile working too. I haven't really used Kirby much though so I'm not sure how well the bosses would go with him.

I only ever tried like once or twice, my plan was to save it for last. No point in doing it if I don't do the other three I have left.
03/05/15, 01:06   
@TriforceBun

So I finished beating Classic 7.0 or higher with all characters and I've moved on to All Star Mode on Hard. All Star seemed really easy for me with characters I'm good at compared to Very Hard in Brawl, but doing it with characters I'm less familiar with has proven anything but easy. I spent like an hour trying to do it with Mega Man yesterday and just kept getting screwed by the glitch. Many times, I would beat the first three levels without using any items and then die from some stupid stage obstacle or a random Samus blast or something. And I've got like 45 more characters to go after Mega Man. BLAHHHHH.
03/13/15, 01:58   

Mewtwo is "pretty much done," and planned to release "pretty soon."

This has been a very important update on the state of Mewtwo. Thank you.
03/21/15, 19:24   
Well, ever since I had a conniption over 1P mode, I've been playing a ton of 1v1 For Glory online. I'm having a good time, mostly because I feel that I'm actually improving.

And a big part of the fun comes with playing around with a character a lot--in this case, Wii Fit Trainer! She used to be my number 5 or 6, but I've been addicted to using her in combat lately and I'm quite a fan. While her hitboxes are sort of short and she has a little trouble KOing, she's great playing defensively/disruptively, which is generally my preferred way to play (fun against aggressive "rushdown" opponents online). Sun Salutation is a terrific projectile, on par with Samus's charge beam (not as much killing power, but you can charge it in the air and it heals her). Header is amazing for keeping edgehoggers off your back or simply if you want to hang out at the ledge for awhile. Deep Breathing doesn't last long but it's fun to get one in from offstage and use its enhanced power for your other moves, and WFT has a lot of hidden talents like her fast running speed and the best crouch in the game (which can duck things like Falcon's dash and grab, two big staples of the Captain).

Best yet, hardly anyone ever fights WFT so a lot of these abilities can take opponents by surprise! It's a similar reason why I like Mega Man so much. When you fight Foxes and Sheiks and Marios a lot, you get an idea of what they'll try to do (like Mario's down-throw to up-tilt business). But catching your opponent off-guard with a rarely-seen character is the very first advantage you get in combat, and can make all the difference!

Wii Fit Trainer cares not for your tier lists. She's too focused on staying in shape, kickin' butt and looking good doing it.

@nate38

Mewtwo should be pretty cool. I liked him in Melee, but I have to admit that if I could add another character to this game, it sure as heck wouldn't be another darned Pokemon. Would've loved to see Inkling (Splatoon) land as a DLC character instead, just in time for her new game!
03/26/15, 05:56   
Finally finished up All Star Mode on hard with every character. Also took down the Captain Falcon all star mode and collected 700 trophies while I was at it.

12 challenges to go. Is there any way to know how many trophy blocks I've destroyed so far?
03/26/15, 13:52   
@TriforceBun Yeah, as much as I liked Mewtwo in Melee, I'm hoping he's not the only DLC character we get. I hope we keep seeing DLC coming to this game for years. A new character every 6 months doesn't seem like too much to ask, does it?

I've seen you playing For Glory a good bit recently when I get on to play With Friends or fool around with the stage creator. I wish there was a way to send you an invite to play. Little things like this would go so far for online play, Nintendo...



@Jargon I feel like I saw a number of Trophy Blocks destroyed somewhere in the Data section, but maybe I'm thinking of something else.
03/26/15, 15:14   
Edited: 03/26/15, 15:58
Is Mewtwo confirmed as "purchasable" DLC? There is no way I'm going to have 3DS + Wii U stuff..

@Jargon
@nate38

I don't think so. I just kept plugging away with Dr Mario (or whoever the Trophy Rush challenge was geared towards), and it eventually fell. Did you hit your 5,000 block mark yet? You get a notification for that.

It took me almost a week, I think, 1-3 hour sessions. I was watching TV, too, though, so it wasn't horrid.

(but it wasn't fun..)
03/29/15, 15:23   
Finally beat that stupid Dr. Mario Trophy Rush challenge. That revealed the easy Pit Cruel Smash challenge, so I'm down to 10 challenges to complete. Many of those are collecting things and the aforementioned trophy block challenge (don't think I've hit any marks, Stache). Keep on trucking.

Edit: Got the two target blast challenges that I was missing. Oh and I checked and I have hit the 5000 block mark (a far cry from 50,000 though!)
04/07/15, 05:04   
Edited: 04/07/15, 05:56
@Mr_Mustache

The Nintendo Direct confirmed it. It's $3.99 for Mewtwo on either the 3DS or Wii U, or it's $4.99 for Mewtwo on both. Future character DLC to be likely the same.
04/07/15, 06:00   
@DrFinkelstein

Would you expect clones to be cheaper because they can re-use more assets than unique characters do, or do you think they'll base the price more on the content offered than the effort put into it?
04/07/15, 06:53   
Edited: 04/07/15, 07:11
@DrFinkelstein 5 bucks per character? #overpriced
04/07/15, 07:05   
You guys ever have random people in For Glory 1v1 change their names to insult you? I just had some dude (with a black Mii, no less) drop the N-bomb on me after I beat his (rather annoying) Ganondorf with Mega Man. He left right after. Kinda dumb.

The only non-name I have on mine is "GOODGAME," although I'm considering adding a "2MUCHLAG" for the people who have chugging connections. Like that Ganondorf match, actually.
04/07/15, 08:24   
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