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I am with Zero on this one. If this is an ALTTP remake, that's one thing. But reusing ALTTP world down to the tree layout and recycled enemies makes no sense whatsoever. There goes any freshness that an ALTTP inspired game could have had. Also the art style looks as bland as New Super Mario Bros. Unfortunately I have lost any faith on the current Zelda team to do the franchise justice. This 1 minute trailer further reinforces my opinion that Aonuma & co. need to retire from Zelda for a good while. That said, this game will still be bought on day 1. Anytime you say "Zelda" I say "take my money".
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on: 04/18/13, 23:10 |
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Even though you're all making total sense with the comments on bringing some 3DS stuff to the Wii U eShop, I think a big reason Nintendo would hesitate to do this would be that it would be admitting that 3D isn't actually that necessary for most 3DS games. Something we all know is (generally) true, but not something that Nintendo would be in a hurry to admit. @gencid Wait wait wait... but I'm not with you! I'm actually pretty excited about this game.
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on: 04/18/13, 23:11 |
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Mop it up said:Oh whoops, I must have stumbled into GameFAQs. Sick burn.
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on: 04/18/13, 23:12 |
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Zero said:@gencid Wait wait wait... but I'm not with you! I'm actually pretty excited about this game. Who said I am not excited? I am, just not nearly as much as I would be if this was a completely fresh ALTTP-like game instead of a semi-recycled remix/sequel.
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on: 04/18/13, 23:16 |
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@ZeroDebating art styles can certainly be worthwhile, helping each other see what the other's point of view, maybe making each other aware of things that the other person didn't notice, etc. There's just not an objectively correct conclusion. I actually wrote my paper for legal philosophy laying out all my thoughts on aesthetic objectivism (thinking the are objectively good works of art) and comparing it to legal objectivism (thinking there are objectively good laws). I'd be happy to share it if you're interested. But we probably shouldn't bring that debate into this thread. @Mop it upI would love that. All handheld games should be playable on a big screen in my opinion. Sure, you'd lose out on the 3D (although I suppose it could work with 3D TVs), but that's a price I'd be willing to pay.
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on: 04/18/13, 23:19 |
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@GuillaumeOoooh, I love how that article ends! Sums up the way I felt about seeing the footage.
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on: 04/18/13, 23:22 |
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@Jargon Well whatever the case, as far as I could tell, Renjaku was trying to say something like my lack of ability to change my initial view on Skyward Sword's art when more media came out points to some inability to change when presented with things that conflict my initial view, which I don't think is fair. I just don't think Skyward Sword has that great of an art style, early media or final game. It doesn't have a bad art style, but it just felt like a lack of a real artistic vision to me. Kind of "so so". I still think it's an awesome game though.
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on: 04/18/13, 23:25 |
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@ZeroI've learned to not try to make sense out of Renjaku
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on: 04/18/13, 23:26 |
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@GuillaumeI enjoy the 3-D effect immensely in games like Castlevania and Luigi's Mansion, but 3-D is eye-candy and eye-candy only, every single game on the 3DS so far has been perfectly playable in 2-D and I'm sure this new Zelda game will be too. In that regard I'd consider it pretty minor.
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on: 04/18/13, 23:28 |
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@deathly_hallowsBut then all 3D is minor and leaves no room for differentiation between different levels of 3D. Certainly the 3D in Super Mario 3D Land isn't equivalent to the 3D in NSMB2.
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on: 04/18/13, 23:31 |
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Although it's just eye candy, the 3D I witnessed just in the preview video (playing on the 3DS) was really, really nifty.
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on: 04/18/13, 23:34 |
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@JargonI'll field this one. Link's Awakening was a mere side story, just like many handheld entries in videogames. Even when a handheld game is a "TRUE SEQUEL", it's usually some wacky experimental shit. See Mario Land, Link's Awakening, Metroid 2, etc. Luigi's Mansion is an obvious, direct sequel, that didnt resort to fucking dream worlds or completely off the wall radically different gameplay. Of course, some console games do that to, and they're usually the black sheep or side stories. See Majora's Mask and Mario Sunshine. Mario 2 USA, etc. Do people consider the endless Zelda handheld games actual true Zelda games? Like on the level of Zelda 1 or OOT? Honest question. I sure as shit don't.
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on: 04/18/13, 23:36 |
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@carlosroxLink's Awakening is right up there with A Link to the Past and Ocarina of Time, as far as I'm concerned. Minish Cap is fantastic too. The two DS games, maybe not so much, but I suppose the answer to your question is "yes", either way.
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on: 04/18/13, 23:41 |
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@carlosroxI definitely consider them true Zelda games. I had more fun with Link's Awakening than Twilight Princess, that's for sure.
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on: 04/18/13, 23:44 |
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@kriswrightAnd Majora's Mask better than Ocarina of Time. *shots fired*
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on: 04/18/13, 23:51 |
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I'm with Zero. I'm expecting plenty of rehash from this game, based on what we've seen and heard. Much more so than in the typical Zelda. But I'm still pretty pumped for it. Your 3D Zelda style is no match for my superior 2D Zelda style.
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on: 04/19/13, 00:02 |
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I'm kind of thinking this will be A Link to the Past's equivalent to Final Fantasy IV's The After Years. I should probably expand upon this, even though I think you all know what I mean, but I can't be arsed. I just felt that was a more positive way of looking at the return of old locations and elements. EDIT: Holy friggin' crap, the audio is glorious! That rendition of the dungeon theme from A Link to the Past is amazing! Such ambience! Hmm, they definitely need some wind noise for the outside of the tower, though.
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on: 04/19/13, 00:10 |
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@carlosroxOf course the handheld Zelda's are true Zelda games. That's ridiculous to think otherwise. Besides what makes them run (i.e. the hardware) what really is different?
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on: 04/19/13, 00:25 |
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@HinphHinph said:The familiarity makes me pretty happy, though... It should make it actually feel like "A Link to the Past 2" rather than an all new overhead Zelda, like you got with Minish Cap. I admit, I'd probably be less forgiving if we weren't talking about pulling things from my absolute favorite game ever, though.
Would you have preferred something more along the lines of "New Legend of Zelda?" I'd like that very much too, which is why it's so important that this game sells a lot. Yea this is what I was saying. Good things will come of this. I don't like the complaining that it's not a true sequel. It's like ongoing sulking about the NSMB series.
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on: 04/19/13, 00:51 |
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