Dammit, apparently Aonuma posted on Miiverse it'll be a little while before they're released outside of Japan.
I don't get why VC releases aren't simultaneous in different regions. Wario Land 3 released in Japan in April of last year, then in Europe some 6 months later, and it's STILL not out in North America. The games are done! Why does it take so long to release VC games in other regions?
@rebonack - Well it is kind of true that the developers originally didn't know what direction they were going in with OoS. When they started making it, it was supposed to be a remake of the original LoZ. As they continued production and Nintendo cut back on the number of Zelda games they wanted from Capcom, the remake got scrapped and turned into an original game. But they didn't throw away all of their work from the remake, incorporating that into the new game. That's why OoS feels so much like a mish-mash of the two, but OoA actually feels more like an original game.
And, yeah, I think Seasons is more popular, but I prefer Ages. Ages, Seasons, and Link's Awakening are my 9th, 10th, and 11th favorite Zelda games respectively also, for what it's worth to this thread.
Yeah, I remember that -- it was supposed to be a series of three games, and one was a remake of LoZ. I kind of like the way that it feels like a throwback, but like you said, it's the mish-mash of elements that doesn't work for me. I'd rather they finished both games rather than mix it all together, but I can totally understand why they wouldn't just throw all that work out.
As for Oracle of Ages, it still has random stuff from the N64 games that feel out of place, like the hand in the toilet from Majora's Mask and Lord Jabu Jabu, but you're right that it's more successful overall in that regard than Seasons is.
@Pokefreak911 Honestly, to me they feel a bit like fan games. It feels like the developers didn't know what kind of game they wanted to make. There are references to Zelda 1, like the bosses in Oracle of Seasons and the burnable trees with coin-giving moblins behind them. Then there are random characters from the N64 games, like Malon and Talon, and the hand in the toilet from Majora's Mask, and the mask salesman, and Tingle. And then there's completely original stuff, like the Magnetic Gloves and the Switch Hook, or the Subrosians and the Tokay. Overall, my biggest issue is that this mish-mash of elements make it feel like the developers didn't know exactly what direction they wanted to go, so rather than pick one, they just threw everything at the wall to see what sticks.
I've never thought about it like that, but you're right. I've heard that the Oracle games started out as 1 game that was going to be a remake of the first Zelda and ended up becoming a new game instead, which might explain why some elements from the first Zelda reappeared in this title, but I don't know if that's true or not. While I agree with what you said about it feeling like a bunch of things from previous Zelda games were thrown together, I also agree with TriforceBun. I enjoy these games a lot.
I don't think I'll be downloading these games if they come to the states. I already have the cartridges, and don't really have much of a reason to buy them again. If anyone reading this hasn't played these games, I suggest you do.
Links Awakening will stay in my top 3 or top 5 Zelda game list. I believe I got Ages, or both of them and I don't remember being that impressed.... but I don't think I completed both of them, or even one of them. That kinda turned me off. I think i also remember you had to play(beat) them in a certain order which got me frustrated at the time. I never had a gameboy color I'd play the game(s) on my gameboy sp. Hell, the fact that I've forgotten so much about the two of them says a lot to me as a gamer...that they weren't that great (to me) to remember them.
BUT if I buy another 3DS I'll likely buy and play them and its kiiiinnndddaaaa hard to not like a Zelda game so I'm sure they're good games
I think the thing that keeps Ages from being a top tier Zelda game is simply the fact that it derives too much from other Zelda games. It's also the problem I have with Minish Cap, and a likely problem I'll have with Seasons. Like someone said, the reuse of certain characters and races just makes the game feel a little like a fan game of sorts. I mean...the Maku Tree? If you're like me, you say "May-koo" tree, which also rhymes with how I say "Day-koo" Tree. Then you throw in the Zoras, Jabu-Jabu, and other "nods" to the series and it's like...come on. I think there's a line that has to be drawn between a "nod" and "blatant attempt to make this feel like a part of the Zelda franchise."
That being said...Ages is a damn, damn good game. Its dungeons are among some of the best in the series. The music in the dungeons is top notch, and the stellar dungeon design continues what was started in Link's Awakening. There are some things I don't like here and there, like the hookshot that doesn't exactly work like a hookshot, the cane with weird powers, and the dreadful Tokay Island....but other than that it's a great game.
Minish Cap did this kind of crap too. Malon and Talon? Do Malon and Talon have ancestors that look exactly like them and have the same name, and also have a farm? Can't we think of anything more creative than that? I think Malon and Talon were also in Four Swords Adventures, but I think at least there, we can give Nintendo a pass because they're essentially making a game that's a celebration of all things Zelda.
Minish Cap did this kind of crap too. Malon and Talon? Do Malon and Talon have ancestors that look exactly like them and have the same name, and also have a farm?
Why not? It's been established since Zelda II that the people of Hyrule are reincarnated, look exactly the same as their former incarnations, and have the same name (and often livelihoods). And then ALttP confirmed that this happened without the need for a royal decree. And then the Oracles established it even further with Malon, Talon, Ingo (yes, they all appear in the Oracles games too) and more.
By the time The Minish Cap came around, it was part of the series's mythology in a very deeply ingrained way, so there's no reason to fault that game for any of the appearances. All fault should lie with AoL, ALttP, and the Oracles (as that was the expansion of the reincarnation-into-the-same-form-with-the-same-name mythos) and shouldn't extend to the games that merely used established mythology rather than expanding upon it, IMO.