"Mr Iwata will reveal new games for #WiiU in a new #NintendoDirect on 23/01"
"This time, the plan is a bit different from a regular Direct, in that I'll be talking about what kind of Wii U titles and services Nintendo is developing." - Satoru Iwata
NCL - 11pm Jan 23rd NOE - 2pm Jan 23rd NOA - 9am EST Jan 23rd
Sorry, anon. I think your point is that you were offended that I was making fun of a game that you like and you wanted to let me know I was an idiot for making fun of it. I'm not going to take it personally that you called me a fool - because I know we're friends, otherwise - but let's just be real.
The kicker is, I'm not actually making fun of the game, because I've never played it. But let's not kid ourselves. To Western ears, that's an ungainly title. You have to memorize it to even be able to talk about it. Surely that's the opposite of good marketing.
Sorry, anon. I think your point is that you were offended that I was making fun of a game that you like and you wanted to let me know I was an idiot for making fun of it. I'm not going to take it personally that you called me a fool - because I know we're friends, otherwise - but let's just be real.
The kicker is, I'm not actually making fun of the game, because I've never played it. But let's not kid ourselves. To Western ears, that's an ungainly title. You have to memorize it to even be able to talk about it. Surely that's the opposite of good marketing.
I've never even played a game in the series, but I just didn't take to your exaggeration is all. You kind of make a point, but I don't think they care about having that mainstream appeal at this point, they are perfectly profitable catering to a niche without potentially tarnishing the name.
@anon_mastermind I'm sorry, but Nintendo has earned this scrutiny. To be fair, it took Sony three years to get back to my good graces.
Being Zelda, it would probably sell well at $59.99. I didn't really expect OoT to sell for $20, since Nintendo is a company out to make as much money as it can. I still think it should have been priced at $20, what did OoT3D do? Updated graphics, some updated dungeons (that were probably a part of Master's Quest) and touch interface. Did that really warrant $29.99 more when it sells for $10 in the VC?
How so what? New textures, for one. And Aonuma did say the game would be tweeked. Sony's ports, depending on the game, came out between $15 and $20 and didn't get that kind of care, they were simply up-rezed.
Don't worry Kris, I thought that 'Mitsubishi' was funny.
Carter: Normally neutrinos pass right through ordinary matter, no matter how dense. I mean, something like five hundred million billion just passed through you.
Fraiser: Colonel I can only guess at the effect this type of radiation may have on the human body. I recommend limited exposure. Ten, 15 minutes at the most.
Jackson: Wait a minute, that's not enough time. I mean there has to be some sort of radioactive suit, or a—
O'Neill: Hey! If you'd been listening, you'd know that Nintendos pass through everything.
I could still argue the point, but I don't mean it aggressively or anything. There's room for discussion. I do think most every game company would like to have a bigger market than a smaller one, though. (Is anyone at Atlus really saying "Ah, to hell with mainstream appeal. Getting 1 of the right kind of gamer is worth 10 deadbeats who wouldn't otherwise buy our game because they were too lazy to sit down and memorize its Japanese title.")
That said, I really can't talk intelligently about this particular series and what potential it has for penetrating the Western market because I don't know anything about it. But that's also a big part of my point.
Or, to put it another way, there's a reason "Kid Icarus: Uprising" wasn't called "Shin Hikari Shinwa: Parutena no Kagami" in the West. That game had enough problems penetrating the market without the title slowing potential customers down.
Principal works in reverse, too. I wouldn't expect Japanese gamers to have to figure out how to pronounce "Zombies Ate My Neighbors" or "Conker's Bad Fur Day". That's why localization teams exist in the first place.
I just about S my pants when Atlus popped up on the screen; "IT'S HAPPENING!" I screamed in my head, in reference to my Nintendo/Atlus Ogre Battle MegatomicBomb prediction. And then..Kris' game and Fire Emblem popped up, which turned my "disappointed like when you don't win the lottery" grimace into a "surprised and what-is-this-Fire-Emblem-fanfare" smile.
Sooooo....I've read this entire thread, and I don't think I missed anything, but did they actually say it was a SMTxFE game, or that the COMPANIES were putting their stuff together? To me, it sounds like the COMPANIES are working on a totally different game.
The video from X took my breath away. Those....were some pretty big monsters. If that is a taste of what the Wii U can offer the Monster Hunter Series (as if it could get any better), that is pretty darn rad. And online? Now we can play TOGETHER for YEEEEARS (..in a few years).
Everything else was enjoyable, games I'm interested in look great, new games look/sound great, "I need it to look like leather," "you want to touch me?" Cripes, someone knows what they're doing to me.. What is that game like anyways? Like Ninja Gaidenish?
Eh, I know what Kris was originally saying. I don't know if I can accurately pronounce it myself, just as I can't pronounce "Secret of Mana 2." Senkekken Densetsu? Is that it? I have no idea. I get the Trigun barb, too. I gotta agree, actually.
And Anand is a Japanophile, who does import all of his games from Akihabara, so there was definitely some validity there.
@Mr_Mustache Bayonetta is closer to Devil May Cry than Ninja Gaiden, but since you apparently never played any non-Nintendo consoles, that may not help you.
IIRC one of the main people from the Devil May Cry games spearheaded development of Bayonetta. I think it probably shares most with that game but the genre is definitely shared with Ninja Gaiden, Madworld, and God of War.
@kriswright Atlus has survived all of these years by serving a niche market. If they wanted to go mainstream they would make Final Fantasy clones like everyone else! And then go out of business like everyone else!
positives and negatives for me: + VC coming to Wii U WW HD looks niiccceee (although I would have preferred Links Awakening or an older Zelda title to be remade) A yoshi game X game that looked like a monster hunter clone but pretty awesome
negatives Yarn yoshi instead of regular yoshi... I'm stubborn and won't give it a chance now. I know epic yarn is a great game but I def don't like the whole yarn thing. paying extra for VC games I would have owned already. Having to wait for the two updates and all the games hehe
