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Negative World Podcast 032 - I'm Buying Freedom
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May 23, 2012, 03:43:45

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Hey hey, NWP fans! DrFinkelstein hosts an all new episode and brings along some friends, Ninsage and Davoid. Ninsage lets us know what it's like having a Dreamcast in 2012 and Davoid talks a bit about Etrian and the game club. DrFink has been sinking his teeth into a double-whammy of Xenoblade and Rhythm Heaven Fever.

When the Doc asks, 'What Do You Fink?', the guys discuss Community's 'video-game' episode, the upcoming Kirby Compilation Disc, and the 'hardest platformer ever'.

After the break they continue on to the main topics and chat about Nintendo entering the realm of full digital downloads, the evolution of the 'casual' market, and what they're looking forward to most with E3 2012 just around the corner.

As usual, the theme music comes from Negative World's owner and dictator, Zero. The music throughout the podcast is taken from The Lion King on the SNES. Stick around after the end credits to hear a super secret, but totally awesome, tip.

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Posted: 05/23/12, 03:43:45  - Edited by 
 on: 05/23/12, 05:35:17    
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@Anand I honestly have no idea if that's meant to be a good or bad thing. Maybe that's because I don't know what you are referencing.

Posted by 
 on: 05/25/12, 05:02:22

It only feels like we talked long because I took out a lot of musical interludes. We just roll into other topics. Are you listening to the enhanced version?

Posted by 
 on: 05/25/12, 05:04:25
@Mop it up
It's not really good or bad. The song (Wrap It Up) just always plays in my head when I see your username. ALWAYS.

Posted by 
 on: 05/25/12, 05:06:31
@DrFinkelstein I did think it was strange at the beginning of the episode when you mentioned that you didn't have your Wii on the previous episode and i didn't rememer that! Well I downloaded it in the normal feed so I'm good for now, but it's just weird that I had no idea. I don't normally click into podcast threads until after I listened to them, so when it didn't appear in my feed, I think I just figured the thread was an old one resurrected. No harm done, and now I've got something to listen to on my flight today.

Posted by 
 on: 05/25/12, 13:50:20

Fly safe!

Posted by 
 on: 05/25/12, 13:51:06
Fun podcast guys!

Joe, when you got your Dreamcast and Jet Grind Radio, was this before the HD update was announced?

Fink, Damn straight, Joy on a Disc!

About the Kirby compilation: Sure, Nintendo got some backlash for the crappy Mario anniversary collection, but then again, they sold out of it. I'm not sure they will actually have learned anything from it. I'm not saying the Kirby collection won't be better, I just don't think the way the Mario collection was received will have been the impetus.

I had no idea Davoid was a White Kirby Supremacist.

Damn, you guys are pretty harsh towards Cloudberry Kingdom! Quite the opposite from Jonny on RFN and Kurt here on the boards, who have actually played it! I understand the scepticism, though, I share it. But I also trust Kurt and Jonny a lot and if they say it plays well and the levels are well-designed, they probably are.

Well, I'm halfway through.

Long podcast!

Posted by 
 on: 05/28/12, 22:00:04
@Guillaume, about Couldberry Kingdom, of course we are judging upon what we saw. Some games are taking a few trailers & gameplay reels before I get excited for it. Admitedly, I haven't seen much: 2 videos. Nintendojo's latest Airship Travelogues podcast has an interview with Pwnny studio, the devs behind the game. I had a few dev winning me over by letting them talk & explain the game, so this make be the interview that will change my opinion. Who knows.

Posted by 
 on: 05/28/12, 22:31:08

Noooo. I keep it Classic!

Posted by 
 on: 05/28/12, 22:54:01
Finished listening to the Latest Airship Travelogues & I'm still not convinced about Cloudberry Kingdom. :\ Give it a listen if you want, the podcast last for about 30 minutes.

Posted by 
 on: 05/29/12, 02:09:00

No, no XBox for this kid. I've actually played JSRFuture before. I think the gameplay was much improved but the characters were taken a step backwards. That made it a wash for someone who cares about narrative as much as silly ol' me.


I do believe it was just shortly before. However, I don't think it would have mattered because at this point I don't see myself getting a PS3/60 or Vita and those were the systems it was announced for, right?

Posted by 
 on: 05/29/12, 06:32:32
Big Q for Fink: Are you gearing up for a podcast on friday?

Posted by 
 on: 05/29/12, 08:04:02
Yeah more or less I am. I'm gonna tackle that when I get home today.

Posted by 
 on: 05/29/12, 13:44:19
By the way, the close release of NSMB on both Wii U and 3DS can NOT be a coincidence. They have to interact in some important way. And the coolest way I can think of is Level Creation on the tablet. And the 3DSeses could be additional controllers, as well. With some nasty multiplayer interoperability.

Posted by 
 on: 05/30/12, 04:22:40
Just wanted to weigh in on the whole casual / hardcore definition thing. Although I definitely agree that they're flawed, in some respects, no matter how you use them... I think they can at least be somewhat meaningful in a really, really... REALLY general way.

But to get specific, I'm not sure that I'd agree with labeling someone who plays 5 hours a day of Angry Birds as a "hardcore gamer". Instead I'd label them a "hardcore Angry Birds fan". To me "gaming" is a very broad term that encompasses many, many games, and I think any viable definition of gaming would have to include someone who has a strong interest in "gaming" as a whole, not just one specific game (or two or three...) This isn't to say they can't have preferred genres and such, but I think it has to go beyond just getting super deep into one specific game and not giving an F about "gaming" as a whole.

Otherwise my grandma becomes a hardcore gamer just because she used to play the F out of Tetris on her Gameboy. Even though she had absolutely no interest in any other game (to the point of refusing to even try anything else.) She didn't care about "gaming" she just needed something to pass the time, Tetris came along, and that filled the void for her. Furthermore, her Gameboy broke? so... she stopped playing. Cold turkey. I'm not sure if any "hardcore gamer" would give up gaming just because something broke on them.

So yeah I'd agree more with Davoid that "hardcore" gamers have a strong level of enthusiasm for gaming as a whole, and tend to seek out more than just the initial game or two that they stumbled upon at the beginning.

Posted by 
 on: 05/31/12, 22:06:25

She played the F out of it? She's hard-core! She's hard-core!

Posted by 
 on: 06/01/12, 00:45:59
To me, 'hardcore gamer' means someone who gives a shit about games. And 'hardcore' game means a hard game*. It's in the title!

*or a pornographic game.

Posted by 
 on: 06/01/12, 04:45:46
And see, this is precisely why the terms are flawed. Or, perhaps, it might be better to say that their usage is flawed. How many times has someone started defining hardcore gaming by saying "To me, it means..." So, while the terms might work well for everyone on the INDIVIDUAL level, those are still some pretty useless terms if anyone wants to use them, y'know.... out loud. =)

After all, while there can and will be wiggle room for any number of descriptors, the better ones don't need such explanation. No one ever says, "to me, 'smooth' is any surface I can skate on" or "to me, 'soft' is anything I can punch through." Again, can a bowling ball be smooth? Yes. Can a very different material like soap be smooth? Absolutely. Yet, in the current usage of hardcore and casual, one extreme CAN encompass the other. For instance, the Angry Birds/Tetris examples made above. And they aren't, by themselves, wrong.

This is why my research wasn't so much designed to say "hardcore gaming is _____" as much as "when people think of 'hardcore', what (the heck) ARE they meaning?"

In other words, it's really just a set of perceptions and, currently, not much more. That's kind of sucky when a thornbush can be argued as "smooth."

Posted by 
 on: 06/01/12, 05:01:10
Yeah, anytime someone wants to have 'the debate' it's necessary to agree on the definitions first.

Posted by 
 on: 06/01/12, 05:23:23
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