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Epic Mickey 2 for Wii is a Musical
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March 21, 2012, 19:58:47
 
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Epic Mickey 2: The Power Of Two has been announced for Wii, but the follow-up to the 2010 adventure sounds very different as producer Warren Spector has confirmed that it will be a musical.

Explaining his decision to include singing and voice acting, Spector told the San Francisco Chronicle: "I'm such a geek about musicals. I love the co-op and next-gen stuff, but for me, when a character breaks into song, which they do on a regular basis in this game, it's magic."

Yet, it's not all change. We're back in the Wasteland, the home of forgotten Disney characters and some locations from the original will return, although they have been damaged by earthquakes.

Paint and thinner, which was central to Epic Mickey, will return as Mickey will be armed with his magical scenery-altering brush and your actions in the game will again have a bearing on the outcome.

However, this time there is drop-in, drop-out co-op gameplay as Oswald the Rabbit - armed with a special remote control that commands electricity - joins forces with Mickey. We can see that working well with the Wii Remote.

Also, Spector has promised that his team is working hard on improving the camera for the sequel.

"We've had a team working on the camera from literally the day we finished the first game," said Spector. "They'll be working on it until the day we ship the second game. (There have been) over 1,000 specific changes made to the camera. Our goal is that you will not have to touch the manual camera controls even once to play through the main story path of this game."

According to Official Nintendo Magazine France, Epic Mickey 2 is also coming to 3DS.

Epic Mickey 2 will be released for Wii this Autumn. Are you looking forward it? Do you like the idea of it being a musical?

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Posted: 03/21/12, 19:58:47  - Edited by 
 on: 03/21/12, 19:59:21    
 
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To me a musical is a movie that's either non stop music or 90% music, neither of which Disney Films are. that's why they're not musicals.


Posted by 
 on: 03/22/12, 09:04:34
@carlosrox

Well I think you are in the minority there, What movies are all or at least 90% music? And to be fair its not up to you to classify a movie as anything really. You can't turn around and say that Zoolander isn't a comedy for instance if it doesn't make you laugh.


Posted by 
 on: 03/22/12, 10:08:14
No, cuz one doesn't properly describe the kind of movie I'm watching. It's like calling 8 Mile a musical. It's not. Isn't something like Grease and Phantom Of Opera a straight musical? Tres Caballeros? Mary Poppins? That rock opera movie from a couple years ago? Pick Of Destiny?


Posted by 
 on: 03/22/12, 11:44:10
I'm not familiar enough with the others you mentioned, but Grease is absolutely a musical. That doesn't make Disney movies not musicals though.


Posted by 
 on: 03/22/12, 11:50:09  - Edited by 
 on: 03/22/12, 11:50:35
carlosrox said:
To me a musical is a movie that's either non stop music or 90% music, neither of which Disney Films are. that's why they're not musicals.
I think you're thinking of operas.


Posted by 
 on: 03/22/12, 14:16:07
carlosrox said:
That'd be cool then. But advertising the game as a musical (same goes for Disney movies) is hilariously inaccurate. No main Disney feature is a true musical. They can have lots of songs in them, but they're not musicals. Grease is a musical. Disney movies aren't. Don't care what Disney says.

carlosrox said:
To me a musical is a movie that's either non stop music or 90% music, neither of which Disney Films are. that's why they're not musicals.

So Disney should stop advertising their films as musicals because they aren't musicals by your definition, one that no one else goes by.

......ok.


Posted by 
 on: 03/22/12, 15:32:35
Anand said:
carlosrox said:
To me a musical is a movie that's either non stop music or 90% music, neither of which Disney Films are. that's why they're not musicals.
I think you're thinking of operas.


Posted by 
 on: 03/22/12, 16:51:43


Posted by 
 on: 03/22/12, 16:56:16  - Edited by 
 on: 03/22/12, 16:58:05
Yeah, operas are the ones that are fully sung-through i.e. Carmen, or more recently, Les Miserables. The definition for a musical is simply "a play or movie in which singing and/or dancing play a large part."

@Simbabbad
One of my favorite N64 memories.


Posted by 
 on: 03/22/12, 17:59:40
@OrbitalBeard
No, they should stop cuz they're not musicals. Do you not see the difference between Fantasia and Grease to Lion King and Pinnochio? The former are clearly musicals, the latter have music in them (through prominent scenes yes I am aware). But c'mon, one is a clearly musical movie and the others are cartoons with some songs in them. I'm curious what percentage of Disney movies are musical. I wonder what the ratio of non musical running time versus regular storytelling.

And when describing the genre of Lion King would you SERIOUSLY say it's a musical? I sure hope not. When watching a Disney movie nobody says they're gonna pop in the latest Disney musical.


Posted by 
 on: 03/22/12, 18:44:56
@carlosrox

Yes those are musicals. They may not feature a new song every five minutes but that doesn't mean they aren't musicals. There's a reason a number of animated Disney films have been converted into Broadway.....musicals.

Speaking of musicals, The Muppets is awesome. I highly recommend everyone see it. I need to pick it up on Blu Ray.


Posted by 
 on: 03/22/12, 18:50:21  - Edited by 
 on: 03/22/12, 18:51:48
carlosrox said:
To me a musical is a movie that's either non stop music or 90% music, neither of which Disney Films are. that's why they're not musicals.
That...makes no sense. That would discount Broadway shows (Wicked, Cat, Fiddler on the Roof, etc.) as plays rather than musicals.

By your definition, a rock concert is a musical?


Posted by 
 on: 03/22/12, 19:27:01  - Edited by 
 on: 03/22/12, 19:27:22
@carlosrox

So, according to you, this isn't a musical?



You realize there is no way you're right?


Posted by 
 on: 03/22/12, 19:37:21
@Simbabbad
Never seen that before nor do I care to. According to me, Disney movies that aren't obviously musicals (Fantasia, Los Tres Caballeros, Silly Synphonies, etc) aren't musicals.

And the fact someone mentioned those Disney on ice/plays helps my point. THOSE are musicals, they ONLY have the songs in them. The movies themselves aren't non stop singing and dancing. The plays and shows are musicals, the movies are not. How are we not seeing the difference between Fantasia and Lion King? One is clearly a musical, one is blurring the lines AT BEST.

They're not musicals period. If you had a book/encyclopedia of movies, the Disney movies will be in the cartoon/animated section, not in the fuckin' musical section. When people ask what genre Lion King and Hercules are, no one (I sincerely doubt it) says they are musicals. In the video store we didn't find Disney movies in the musical section.

It's like calling Jacob's Ladder a HORROR movie. No, it's a drama with horror elements. There's a difference.


Posted by 
 on: 03/22/12, 20:38:28  - Edited by 
 on: 03/22/12, 20:48:26
@carlosrox

Why do you think a musical is only comprised of singing and dancing? I think your definitions are mixed up--ask any aficionados of theater/film what the definition of a musical is, and you'll get the same one each time. You'll have a very hard time convincing someone that The Sound of Music, Singin' in the Rain, Cats, Little Shop of Horrors, and West Side Story aren't musicals but rather plays/movies "with songs in them." As mentioned in this thread, the common definition of an "opera" is something that is fully sung-through.

I'm not sure if I'd even classify Fantasia as a musical, since it has no spoken or sung dialogue (in its animated sequences). It was always more like...I dunno, an animated version of a ballet or something to me.


Posted by 
 on: 03/22/12, 20:44:43
Yes but to me Cats and Little Shop of Horrors ARE obvious musicals. Disney movies just aren't the same.

So is Labyrinth a musical too?


Posted by 
 on: 03/22/12, 20:49:42  - Edited by 
 on: 03/22/12, 20:52:47
carlosrox said:
Little Shop of Horrors
It's not a musical by your own definition. And Fantasia isn't a musical at all, it's classical music with animation.


Posted by 
 on: 03/22/12, 20:58:00
TriforceBun said:
@carlosroxask any aficionados of theater/film what the definition of a musical is

Ahem!

Technically Disney movies like Lion King, Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, etc. are musicals. Animated musicals sure, so most people would just simply call them "animated movies" rather than musicals, but you could still classify them as musicals because they meet the criteria. This isn't a matter of opinion.

The Who's Tommy for example is called a rock opera, but technically it isn't an opera because there is some (only a little) spoken dialogue.


Posted by 
 on: 03/23/12, 01:51:51
Wait, I just re-read the thread and saw this:

carlosrox said:
No main Disney feature is a true musical. They can have lots of songs in them, but they're not musicals. Grease is a musical. Disney movies aren't.
By your own definition Grease isn't a musical either.


Posted by 
 on: 03/23/12, 02:25:02
I don't have a strict definition just like there isn't a strict definition for horror, but again, is Metroid Prime an FPS? Jacob's Ladder a Horror?

Again, until I see someone actually call the genre of a Disney movie a musical, or find them in the musical section, they ain't musicals. And how would Fantasia NOT be a musical?


Posted by 
 on: 03/23/12, 03:05:07
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