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MEGATON CONFIRMED - Nintendo to reveal 3DS Handheld at E3
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March 23, 2010, 10:01:01
I guess it's legit...

Official PDF said:
Nintendo Co., Ltd. (Minami-ward of Kyoto-city, President Satoru Iwata) will launch "Nintendo 3DS"(temp) during the fiscal year ending March 2011, on which games can be enjoyed with 3D effects without the need for any special glasses.

"Nintendo 3DS"(temp) is going to be the new portable game machine to succeed "Nintendo DS series", whose cumulative consolidated sales from Nintendo amounted to 125million units as of the end of December 2009, and will include backward compatibility so that the software for Nintendo DS series, including the ones for Nintendo DSi, can also be enjoyed.

We are planning to announce additional details at E3 show, which is scheduled to be held from June 15, 2010 at Los Angeles in the U.S.

EDIT: confirmed by a Nintendo spokesperson.

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Posted: 03/23/10, 10:01:01  - Edited by 
 on: 03/23/10, 15:09:35    
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Doesn't this mean bye-bye touch screen though?

Posted by 
 on: 03/24/10, 11:57:21
-JKR- said:
Doesn't this mean bye-bye touch screen though?

Nope, Sharp uses dual-layered screens, which are the screens that Nintendo is reported to be using for the 3DS. The film material is not something you can touch.

Posted by 
 on: 03/24/10, 12:00:35
So yeah...wow. Tentative wow anyway :P. I'll wait and see price/other features/software before I move to zowee mode :P.

And eww at collapsible analogue stick, I can see that thing breaking easy.

Posted by 
 on: 03/24/10, 12:34:45
Would the stick have to be collapsible? Couldn't it fit into a recess on the upper section? There will still be space either side of the screens to accomodate buttons and speakers, right?

Posted by 
 on: 03/24/10, 12:41:11

Posted by 
 on: 03/24/10, 13:20:56
It'd be cool if the stick was on like a bearing or something, where you could flip it and on the bottom would be a D-Pad!

Posted by 
 on: 03/24/10, 13:32:29
I saw a really cool clamshell phone design, I think it was the 3D Hitachi, which had some kind of fancy, Rubik hingework. You could open it vertically like a DS, or close it and then open it sideways.

I don't know if Nintendo would be able to make something like that kid proof, but that'd mean you could have two long screens side by side. It'd give you a whole extra screen format for games.

Posted by 
 on: 03/24/10, 13:37:48  - Edited by 
 on: 03/24/10, 13:39:21
[ref=id=1557&pagenumber=7#28847]casper884 said:[/ref][quote][ref=id=1557&pagenumber=7#28833]Oldmanwinter said:[/ref][quote]It sounds cool but I don't really get it. How does it project a 3D image without glasses? Someone enlighten me.[/quote]
It's simple really. The LCD panel has a film on top of it, with slits, that allows each eye to interpret different pixels by manipulating light through the slitted material so that the light can be seen differently for each eye, which projects multiple images simultaneously, based on the general knowledge of the viewing angles for a set of human eyes. Typically this technique is used on LCD panels to let two people view different images on the same screen. For instance, while in a car, the driver could view the screen as a GPS, while the passenger could view the screen to watch a movie, due to them sitting at different angles. However, the same technique can also be used to produce a 3D effect by combining the two images to form a stereoscopic display.

Furthermore, with eye-tracking and tilt, you can utilize and adjustable parallax barrier since it will always know where your eyes are located. With this method, you are not limited to a certain viewing angle to see the 3D effect, as it can shift with your perspective. You can also allow multiple users to view the 3D effect by simply added more images to accommodate multiple viewing angles.[/quote]
Not only that but the screen from Sharp that Nintendo are reportedly using is a 3-way screen
in the middle the frame with a picture of a god, on the left a mirror showing the viewable image of flowers and to the right a mirror image showing a sat nav application running.
this screen was being demoed as running a sat nav for a driver, showing something for a wife in the passenger seat and then a movie for the kids in the back seats.

now how this will work is as casper described above, the DS will be able to differentiate pictures on screen for each eye (now remember this is what happens at movies with the glasses) to which will give the 3D images. If the system does infact do eye tracking it will be able to have an infinite amount of focus points which is one thing i hate at 3d movies is that the focus point is what the director wants i cant just look at something i want.

a little tidbit FYI, this screen was first shown off to the public in 2006

Posted by 
 on: 03/24/10, 15:06:15  - Edited by 
 on: 03/24/10, 15:07:53
I just hope it doesn't strain our eyes.

But, man... 3 screens? They should all it the TS, then.

How would that maintain backwards compatibility, though? And the whole configuration might be way awkward with a stylus. I'm going to hope that it is somehow done with 2 screens.

Posted by 
 on: 03/24/10, 15:35:08
This was already mentioned on PLJ radio today (for anyone in NY) as the next gadget your kids will be begging for. It made me wonder...

Do you guys think they'll continue targeting the casual crowd with this? It seems like 3-D is more of a step in the "hardcore" direction IMO. I know it shouldn't scare away casuals, but in reality 3-D might carry some "oh no that sounds complex" connotations with it.

Posted by 
 on: 03/24/10, 15:42:53
@The Cog Master

Oh. No, I didn't understand. I just got off of work and need to get back to making Mario levels... yes, that's right. I can't get too involved in all of this awesome new Nintendo hardware discussion because I have to get back to making Mario levels.


I want some of you people to listen to me in that thread I made and start making Mario levels with me! The first one I submitted is ranked #1 on the site. I made an awesome Mario level in 8 hours... and you can too!

Posted by 
 on: 03/24/10, 15:49:26
The complexity thing will only be as complex as the company wants to make it. If they actually explain to the 'casuals' what it is they're showing off, and use simple examples, I don't see the 'casuals' getting scared off. If anything I see them going, "ZOMG! That's so cool, I must buy it!"

Posted by 
 on: 03/24/10, 15:51:20
Simbabbad said:
@heliumsky the screen has tiny oriented stripes, that makes that the left and right eye don't see the same thing, which creates 3D.

The problem of this technique is you have to be at one specific spot.

So if you are blind in one eye the new system won't work. My friend lost sight in his eye by having a dental brace snap back into his eye 20 years ago and my cousin who is about 20 was born with next to no sight in one eye. ( I actually just found this out a few days ago when I found out his family went to see Avatar but didn't go to the 3D version)

Not to think Nintendo doesn't know what they are doing but if you have to hold the DS in a specific spot (and maybe specific lighting conditions?) then that may limit when/where you can play the handheld.. How about a bumpy bus? A car on a bright sunny day? Do you have to hold the DS a certain distance from the face? Would lying on your stomach and playing be too close? Eye strain?

Of course, nobody here knows the correct answers but these are some of the questions I hope will be answered at E3


Posted by 
 on: 03/24/10, 16:32:53  - Edited by 
 on: 03/24/10, 16:33:12
Simbabbad said:
Smerd said:
Of course, nobody here knows the correct answers but these are some of the questions I hope will be answered at E3
Well, I do !

You just have to hold it in the correct general space, so your eyes see two different images. Bumps or lighting doesn't change anything from the discomfort of viewing a 2D image, it'll be the exact same, except for a 3D image.

And people with only one eye working will see the same thing as they usually do in real life, they just won't see the stereoscopic 3D and just see a flat image, like they do with everything.

So technically speaking, you might be able to turn off 3D effects if you didn't like them or something? If they let you?

Posted by 
 on: 03/24/10, 17:19:04

If they use the Sharp screens, the 3D can be turned off.

Posted by 
 on: 03/24/10, 17:42:21
I find the idea that this could scare away the casuals kinda funny, mainly because that's what Sony was riffing on yesterday trying to downplay the announcement.

"There's a tremendous amount of opportunity on PlayStation 3 with 3D. We know we have a hit with 3D on PS3 and we're going to concentrate our efforts there.

I'd like to see where they go from a demographic standpoint. 8 and 9 year olds playing 3D is a little bit of a stretch given where some of our research is right now."

3D is harcooore! Little Nintendo kids will be scared off by how mature it is!

Um, everyone loves 3D. It's a simple concept that you can relate to your everyday life, like touching a screen or swinging a motion controller. Sony wants to sell $2000 TVs and patches for its PS3 games... fine, but don't pretend the 1337 gamers are the only ones capable of enjoying it, they're just the only suckers who'll pay for it like that.

When I was 8 or 9, I was wearing a pair of 3d glasses and drawing 3d comic books with my trusty red and blue pencil. There's no technofear associated with 3d, especially when it's built right into the screen.

Posted by 
 on: 03/24/10, 18:09:39

I heard 3D steals your soul, though. Something to think about...

Posted by 
 on: 03/24/10, 18:12:20
Phalanx said:

If they use the Sharp screens, the 3D can be turned off.

Or..you can just close one eye!

Posted by 
 on: 03/24/10, 18:13:13

Haha, I was just going to post that. Apparently 3D isn't cool or worth it unless Sony is doing it. Now I get it's just PR, but Reggie manages to do PR just fine without looking retarded most of the time.

Posted by 
 on: 03/24/10, 18:16:24

There's a huge thread on VGChartz about it where all the sony fanboys are saying that it was a perfectly reasonable statement. Big surprise there.

Posted by 
 on: 03/24/10, 18:18:35
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