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Pikmin 3 DOES Exist: Miyamoto says development "well underway"
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March 20, 2010, 01:46:06
"The Official Nintendo Magazine UK is hanging out at tonight's BAFTA Video Game awards, and has punched into its Twitter account that not only did it get to talk to one Shigeru Miyamoto, but that he's confirmed Pikmin 3 is in development and "well under way." Over a year ago, the game was rumored to be released a week-and-a-half from now, but we'll presume it's not quite that far along in development."


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Posted: 03/20/10, 01:46:06  - Edited by 
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Scrawnton said:
casper884 said:
Simbabbad said:
@carlosrox so you're saying every single franchise should wait for Wii 2?! I don't see why Starfox should wait, honestly. It's an on rail game, you can make it looks amazing on Wii.

No, I'm just saying this for Pikmin. It's a franchise with tons of details and little characters, and it just really doesn't look good in SD. It aliases A LOT. A sequel with HD and more horsepower would make more sense.

Maybe if they release after Zelda then we won't have to worry about how bad it would have looked in SD. .

*does not compute*

Some things cannot be computed until they've been revealed.

Posted by 
 on: 03/20/10, 16:35:46
Simbabbad said:
@Scrawnton my guess is he means after Zelda we will be in awe about what the Wii can do and won't be as eager to see its successor.

Myself I have my doubts. In the case of Pikmin you can't make up pixel resolution through tricks.

But things like aliasing don't need to be remedied by simply increasing the display resolution. While HD resolution definitely helps to display more detail per pixel, the difference on the Wii isn't as stark as say, the DS resolution compared to an SD tv. There are ways to get great detail out of SD resolutions, without the need to depend on pixel counts.

Posted by 
 on: 03/20/10, 16:49:47
Simbabbad said:
Not in the case of Pikmin. To cover up SD, either you have a simple, readable style, or antialiasing, or blur.

None of those apply to Pikmin, where you have very tiny characters and details, and you need actual resolution and can't just blur it up.

You can't make up pixels and details that aren't there.

Well I never said that you COULD just make up pixels that a resolution can't display. But I disagree that applying AA to tiny characters like Pikmin would somehow look bad. Not if it's done correctly. They wouldn't look 'blurry' either. They would look smooth.

I do not argue that HD isn't beneficial to a game like Pikmin, in fact, I would prefer it to be in HD. But you're acting like the game would look atrocious in SD and I think that's a bit exaggerated. With some appropriate AA/AF/Edge Smoothing on the characters, the game would look fine. It may not look as CRISP as it could in HD since you could put in more detail per pixel in HD,but it wouldn't be a blurry mess. If anything, it would have a CG/movie quality look to it. With the Wii in its current state, this is not possible on a large scale.

We've all seen those fantastic nature documentaries before HD even existed and those films displayed small detail (like hundreds of ants or bees) just fine and SD resolution didn't hamper the experience. HD just made the films look even more fantastic.

Posted by 
 on: 03/20/10, 17:31:40
Simbabbad said:
I speak from my experience. NPC Pikmin and Pikmin 2 looked pretty terrible, and I have yet to see a single Wii game that could display so many tiny characters without aliasing nor blurriness nor headache. I'd rather wait one or two year than have that. Talking about hypothetical treatment I've never seen on the system, or nature documentaries that are a totally different business, don't convince me .

Well my aim isn't necessarily to 'convince' you, but I just wanted to be clear about my statements. I wanted to make sure you understood the what I meant by making Pikmin look good in SD. In other words, NOT by adding detail through pixels, but by superficially removing the graphical 'flaws' present in a game like pikmin being displayed in SD.

It is hypothetical in the sense that we don't know if Nintendo will use the Wii's potental processing capabilities to make Pikmin look good in SD, but it is possible, and that was my point.

But I'm glad you expounded, as that gave me a chance to clarify any potential misinterpretations.

Posted by 
 on: 03/20/10, 17:51:05
I have both NPC Pikmin and Pikmin 2, IMO I think they look very good (minus the low res textures for the grass and such). This is on my 50" Samsung plasma.

Without getting into any preexisting arguments above, Pikmin 3 for Wii with Super Mario Galaxy graphics? YES PLEASE!

Posted by 
 on: 03/20/10, 19:38:47
Simbabbad said:
@carlosrox so you're saying every single franchise should wait for Wii 2?! I don't see why Starfox should wait, honestly. It's an on rail game, you can make it looks amazing on Wii.

No.....I said those two franchises could stand to wait. I mean, if Nintendo isn't far along in those two they might as well wait....depends on when they're gonna release Wii 2 as well, of course. If we really are waiting til 2014 or something crazy like that then they might as well release some of those games. Nintendo has given us multiple games we didn't expect this gen so I worry that these games may have replaced a few of the usual franchises at least for awhile until they came back with them next-gen. It'd be insane if they released a game from those two series as well as everything else we've gotten this gen. No one can say Nintendo did not deliver this generation. Their track record this gen is just insane.

Posted by 
 on: 03/20/10, 22:36:20
Jargon said:

You should look for NPC Pikmin. It started out cheap and is probably even cheaper now, plus I heard it's even better with Wii controls. One of my top games of last generation.

I have seen it available for around 20 but I just got little king story and money is tight so I may just wait for pikmin 3 lol.

Posted by 
 on: 03/21/10, 04:36:49
I'm waiting to see what comes of this. I was... a fan of the idea and the game was solid, but I never really got myself to sit down and play through it. Then again it could just be that at the time I got Pikmin (near GCN launch), I was starving for somsething else, and my tastes were starting to severely narrow.

Posted by 
 on: 03/23/10, 00:30:57
@Simbabbad Yeah but then I would have to go a whole generation without Pikmin. And LKS was fun but doesn't quite cut it.

They can still do Pikmin 4 in HD.

Posted by 
 on: 03/23/10, 19:39:51
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