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Guacamelee! - Super Turbo Championship Edition announced for the Wii U eShop
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March 06, 2014, 05:10:51
 
As well as the PS4 / Xbox One / Xbox 360. It sounds like it is the original PS3 game plus all of the DLC plus some new levels, bosses, and abilities.

This is pretty much one of the best "indie" games that I have played. It's basically a Metroid-like brawler and it is very good. It also gives a ton of nods to old school Nintendo games, sometimes in pretty clever ways. Essentially, it is a game that was meant to be on a Nintendo platform and now it will be. If you haven't checked it out yet and you have a Wii U, you should definitely pick this one up when it hits.

Release date: "soon".


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Posted: 03/06/14, 05:10:51    
 
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@Jargon

So if they took the "Metroid" out of the "Metroid-like" game, it'd be less like Metroid?

I think you're on to something!


Posted by 
 on: 03/06/14, 21:18:51
@GameDadGrant

But that's my point. Just having a large world that opens up as you gain powers shouldn't merit comparisons to Metroid for all time.


Posted by 
 on: 03/06/14, 21:21:07
@Jargon

Why not? Just curious, since that's essentially what Metroid is.


Posted by 
 on: 03/06/14, 21:23:34
I'm with Grant here... that IS Metroid. It's not really about the combat (though the 3D games focused more on that) but the progression mechanics.

Albeit Guacamelee! focuses more on combat than 2D Metroid did...


Posted by 
 on: 03/06/14, 21:49:43
@GameDadGrant

Why isn't every side scrolling 2D platformer called a Mario type game? Why isn't every JRPG called a Dragon Warrior type game?

Plus the basic idea was in Zelda before Metroid.


Posted by 
 on: 03/06/14, 21:50:23
@Jargon

Not just the combat though, the platforming for lack of a better word is very different with the dark world mechanic and the twitch based switching between them to progress.


Posted by 
 on: 03/07/14, 01:22:51
@Jargon

Dude, you know what they say about talking to yourself right?


Posted by 
 on: 03/07/14, 01:47:32
Haha oops, that was meant for Zero.


Posted by 
 on: 03/07/14, 02:26:40
GameDadGrant said:
No 3DS version, no buy.


WII U GET!!!


Posted by 
 on: 03/07/14, 02:59:08
@Jargon Well, I get your point. Not every game with that type of progression necessarily has much to do with Metroid. But I do think that it's pretty common to compare games in a genre to the originator, and to me the "genre" of Metroid is more about the progression than about the shooting or platforming or whatever. Metroid might not have completely originated that style of 2D action/adventure game, but it was probably the defining game. If anything the term "Metroidvania" bothers me because what did Castlevania do to deserve to get its name in there? Besides borrow heavily from Metroid.

Also, isn't every platformer compared to Mario? When people say Donkey Kong is slow, they don't just say he is slow, they say he is slow next to Mario. When people say LittleBigPlanet is loose, they say it is loose next to Mario. Etc. Maybe no one specifically calls 2D platformers "Marionic" (that's Mario plus Sonic) games but they sure as heck are comparing them all to Mario.


Posted by 
 on: 03/07/14, 03:44:58
Metroid created a genre, Castlevania helped popularize it. Hence the term "Metroidvania" was born, and so it shall be until the death of our puny and insignificant civilization.


Posted by 
 on: 03/07/14, 03:55:21
Will buy. There's a coop mode right?


Posted by 
 on: 03/08/14, 00:07:14
Jargon said:
@GameDadGrant

Why isn't every side scrolling 2D platformer called a Mario type game? Why isn't every JRPG called a Dragon Warrior type game?

Plus the basic idea was in Zelda before Metroid.

Many 2D platformers are compared to Mario, though. And JRPGs are often referred to as DragonQuest-like (or Final Fantasy-like), because it started/popularized the genre. Same thing happened when fighting games hit the big time in the early '90s...they all got compared to Street Fighter II, and all FPS games were "DOOM-clones."

Er...basically what @Zero was saying.


Posted by 
 on: 03/08/14, 02:24:33
@GameDadGrant

Heh. Doom-clone is the first thing that came to mind when the subject was raised a few days ago.


Posted by 
 on: 03/08/14, 02:30:05
@GameDadGrant

Yea, all FPS games WERE called Doom clones. Do you hear that anymore? There's a difference between comparing games to the seminal game in the genre and to naming a genre after it. This isn't a big deal to me, but it does annoy.

PS When I was 12, I wrote a feature for Nintendojo called Send In the Clones about Doom clones. Anyone read it?


Posted by 
 on: 03/08/14, 02:43:47
It's not like this is the only case of it though. The term "Roguelike" arose basically because there were other games like Rogue so someone was like hey... it's Rogue...like!

We also have genres named after the hemisphere / country that they originated in despite the fact that no one necessarily has to live in that hemisphere / country to make games in those genres. Yeah, I'm talking about Western RPGs and Japanese RPGs.

In conclusion, genres are stupid.


Posted by 
 on: 03/08/14, 07:03:11  - Edited by 
 on: 03/08/14, 07:10:24
It's out on Wii U now! Go get it!


Posted by 
 on: 07/03/14, 17:59:19
I'd love to buy this game, but I got it free on PS+. Damn you, PS+!

@Zero
Calling something Roguelike isn't really about putting it into a box, though. It indicates a very specific feature-set. And using the word is sort of like a Bat-Signal for roguelike nerds like me.

Like Beatlesque! That word alone will sell me at least one CD from any band.

@Jargon
Link!


Posted by 
 on: 07/04/14, 04:19:51  - Edited by 
 on: 07/04/14, 04:20:20
@Anand

As far as I can tell it's gone with the cyber wind. Sad.


Posted by 
 on: 07/04/14, 05:51:58
One of my favorite games of all time, they don't make em like this anymore*.

*since the death of Metroid and Igavania.


Posted by 
 on: 07/04/14, 20:37:45  - Edited by 
 on: 07/04/14, 20:39:05
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