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Negative World Podcast 049 - Legitimate Toad Is Missing
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June 15, 2013, 06:56:44

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It's the end of E3 Week 2013!!!! All of us Negative Worlders had to stay home from the big event but a group of us still got together on Wednesday night to record the big E3 special, Legitimate Toad Is Missing!!! Yes, that also means this podcast is out in record time. Don't get used to the two-day turn-around,... ;)

Still, this episode we have a fantastic foursome in the form of Kriswright, TheBigG753, and NinSage co-hosting along with everyone's second-favorite doctor (to Dr. Mario of course), DrFinkelstein!

They discuss E3 2013 at length in this nearly two-and-a-half-hour podcast. Games discussed include but are not limited to, Super Mario 3D World, Super Smash Bros, Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze, Mario Kart 8, and much much much more!!! Give it a listen. If you're not normally a listener of the enhanced podcast, you might want to start. It is broken down by game/topic with it's lovely useful chapters.

As per the norm, the theme music comes from Negative World's owner, Zero. The interlude music is nonexistent. We just talk, talk, talk. Content. Content. Content! No breaks!

Please comment on the topics, the podcast, the guests, hosts, etc. on Negative World! You can also reach us through Facebook or Twitter. We'd love it if you went and gave us a glowing (but honest) review on iTunes also!

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Posted: 06/15/13, 06:56:44    
Why not sign up for a (free) account and create your own content?
Please don't comment on the guests. We have fragile egos and already know we sound like a turtle with a cold.

Posted by 
 on: 06/15/13, 07:14:12

My audio probably sounds like a turtle with a cold in a large empty room. For some reason it sounds a bit room toney and I didn't know what to do to best fix it. It's certainly listenable though.


Also, I just need to post this image for those who don't use the enhanced podcast and thus wont see the art I chose for this game's particular chapter marker....

Posted by 
 on: 06/15/13, 07:30:33

Sorry, I was using the "royal we". I meant I sound like a turtle with a cold. You guys sound like cool, smart guys.

Posted by 
 on: 06/15/13, 08:59:38
Cool. Just started listening. I have to disagree, I thought both Sony & MS's conference was better than this Nintendo Direct and thats coming from someone who hates MS and Sony I can put up with, but I do not really enjoy the personalities that usually present during Sony's conferences.

Again, I am basing this just off of this one Nintendo Direct, which I thought was the worst out of all the Nintendo Directs I've seen over the past year.

I also think Nintendo needs to focus more on third parties. It just seems like they don't care about third party offerings. Not really talking up the Sonic exclusives is wrong and blowing off third party games like Oddworld is no way to win over third parties.

While I love these podcasts, it seems some of you have on your fanboy blinders. I've always admitted I am a Nintendo fan first and I have not played any games on another system since the PS1, even though we owned other systems like PS2, Xbox, 360, PS3.....my sons played games on those systems.

It looks like I am either buying a PS3 for myself, or maybe just a PS4, as long as I will be able to download PS3 games(which I believe Sony mentioned would be available via a cloud service) and all the games available on PS3's eshop will be available on the PS4.

I missed on on some great games on the PS2/PS3 and couple in that the Wii U is very, very lacking in 3rd party support. Each generation, I am becoming less satisfied with Nintendo overall.

Posted by 
 on: 06/15/13, 11:42:07  - Edited by 
 on: 06/15/13, 11:56:28

To each their own. When the competition does something that appeals to me, I purchase it. For example, my 360, some games I have for that and particularly XBLA. I first played Sonic All Stars Racing Transformed on the 360, but bought it for my Wii U.

I don't feel I'm as blind to anything as you suggest. It's simply that Nintendo caters to my interests. I understand that this is a problem if they want to branch out but on a personal level, that is not what I care much about. I could survive on what Nintendo produces. You may feel that's fanboyism because you cannot survive on that, but still, that's a mere difference between us. It's not fanboyism.

The only 3rd Party titles to interest me so far are Watch Dogs and Shovel Knight, and that's on Wii U.

Unfortunately, the way I see it, Nintendo has done wrong by 3rd parties for ages now and that has not stopped me from enjoying gaming. I'm merely unphased when they happen to not focus on 3rd Party talk too much because I'm used to it. Doesn't make it right, but doesn't make any of us a fanboy. God I hate that term. It's such a catch all without actually thinking more critically and deeper into why someone enjoys something. Please keep listening gamewizard but do understand the kind of gamers we are and why most of us are here. Nintendo is our passion and the rest comes after. It might help you understand our perspectives better.

To me, getting excited about what Nintendo is releasing, and choosing to not discuss what they're not doing or not doing 'right' is merely choosing not to look at the glass half empty all the time. There's enough of that on the boards and I've heard that from a lot of other podcasts. We even had our share of it. I think the Negative World Podcast is meant to be for Nintendo gamers from Nintendo gamers, and this is the end result.

Posted by 
 on: 06/15/13, 15:46:53  - Edited by 
 on: 06/15/13, 16:17:34
@gamewizard65 Oddworld is coming to the Wii U, it was shown off in the eShop real of the Nintendo Direct!

Posted by 
 on: 06/15/13, 18:10:08

I wouldn't say it's so much about being "fanboyish". Yeah, Nintendo has a special place in my heart like I'm sure they do for most of us on this board, but I don't "root" for them anymore than I'd support Microsoft, Sony or anyone else. I want all of them to do well if it means more good games for me.

For instance, the 360 was my primary console this generation and I feel like the PS4 will be my primary system for the next-generation. Nintendo systems, for me, have largely become something that offer a different experience from the other systems. Since the N64 days, their systems have been something that I buy for Nintendo games, and anything else beyond that is just icing on the cake.

So yeah, I know that the third party problem is there, but for me it's a non-issue because I'll seek those games out on other platforms. It didn't loom as some large elephant in the room for me at E3 this year because my interest was exclusively in what games Nintendo was showcasing, and in that sense, I thought the show was largely a success.

I'm probably among the most cynical and negative normally when it comes to Nintendo, and they've had some really bad shows of late, but objectively speaking I can't come out of the show with anything other than a very positive opinion of Nintendo's upcoming lineup. Honestly, I go into all of the major press conferences hoping for a fantastic show, and never want Nintendo to do better or worse than the others. And to be fair, after the troubles of the last few years, I thought all 3 of the major console manufacturers had good showings (Microsoft's lineup is arguably better than Sony's, but they aren't making a console designed with gamers in mind, so that put a well-deserved damper on their showing).

The bottom line is that coming out of the show, Nintendo showed more games in their 45-minute presentation that I want, than Sony and Microsoft did combined. And obviously that all comes down to personal preference and whatnot, but from a Nintendo games perspective, it largely delivered on what I wanted. I'm genuinely surprised that the level of negativity in reaction to the Nintendo Direct is as significant as it is. 2003, 2008 and 2009, 2011 and 2012 -- those were bad shows. This year has to rank up there, maybe behind just 2004 and 2010, as one of their strongest.

Posted by 
 on: 06/15/13, 20:54:24

I think its great having the attitude by looking at things as the glass being half-full. At the same time, whatevet the case may be, avoiding the issue that there is something wrong will not fix the problem either. I only say this, cause I reallly hope Nintendo checks out different sites and that they really listen to what their fans are saying. And right now there is a problem with the Wii U. Not enough ground breaking AAA, the price, ignorance amongst the consumers regarding the Wii U. Probably alll three, but whatever the case Nintendo really needs to address.

Even that interview with Geoff(who I personally do not care for), the guy was asking quetions that really matter, and no I'm not referring to the 'sad' comment. I think its a given that Reggie and the rest of Nintendo is probably disappointed with how the Wii U is doing. Plus, the way Reggie answers some of the hard hitting questions is why Geoff pushes like that. Though it is Reggie's job to put on a positive front and more than likelY, Reggie probably doesn't have answers, or is not given the answers by the big wigs in Japan.

Anyways, I thought the podcast was GREAT as always. Keep up the good work!

Posted by 
 on: 06/15/13, 21:15:43
Here's the thing people often forget when they toss around the word "fanboy" ...

Being a fanboy = allowing the appreciation of one thing to cause hatred for an alternative thing.

Not being a fanboy (Ver. A) = liking one thing, as opposed to its alternatives, to any degree (range 1UL* to infinity).
Not being a fanboy (Ver. B) = liking one thing (to any degree) and disliking alternative things due to separate causes.

*Unit of Like-itude

Posted by 
 on: 06/16/13, 02:40:58
Drinking game: Take a shot every time I mention my wife.

Posted by 
 on: 06/16/13, 06:13:52
kriswright said:
Drinking game: Take a shot every time I mention my wife.

Happens to the best of us. If we were younger, our first-hand gaming experiences would likely include friends, roommates, floor-mates, etc.

From now on, it's pretty much the significant other and then kids in X number of years after they learn to stop eating the controllers.

Posted by 
 on: 06/16/13, 18:57:44
For some reason the enhanced version was being a bit finicky in showing up on iTunes... that should be fixed now. Download away!

Posted by 
 on: 06/16/13, 21:11:29
Just listening to this now. Wanted to thank you guys for putting out the most positive Nintendo E3 report I've heard.
Any excitement that I had allowed myself got drained away by the Metts or the Lindemans of this world (I'm not saying people don't have a right to be disappointed, that's fine) but thanks for reinstalling it.

Yes Ninty is playing it safe for now, but once the install base is there they can move a little left field.

Posted by 
 on: 06/20/13, 09:47:16  - Edited by 
 on: 06/20/13, 09:54:55

Rock on, sir!

Obviously, we don't set out to be positive or negative. But, we calls 'em as we sees 'em and it just so happens that we tend to enjoy gaming a lot more than some of the other podcasts out there.... especially Nintendo-centric ones.

Hope you continue to find what you're looking for with us!

Posted by 
 on: 06/20/13, 11:09:38

Glad to hear this! My position on this stuff is as simple as I'm a Nintendo Gamer. Nintendo is releasing fun games. I don't dwell on coulda, woulda, shoulda, especially when all that stuff we still want it probably on the way still. I just didn't get that negative reaction I'm seeing elsewhere. I'm glad you appreciate it. And Ninsage is absolutely right, with...

NinSage said:
Hope you continue to find what you're looking for with us!

Please check out episode 49.5 after this one. It's part two of our E3 discussions. this time with Zero and talking about Best Buy. I fear the post itself got lost in the shuffle.

Posted by 
 on: 06/20/13, 13:32:58
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